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Old 05-13-2006, 02:32 PM  
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Securing the border, 2006 vs. 2005

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[font=Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif]NBC: Bush may deploy Guard along U.S. border [/font]
President to address nation on immigration Monday as Senate nears deal
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Updated: 3:02 p.m. ET May 12, 2006

WASHINGTON - As the White House prepared for President Bush to address the nation on immigration, sources told NBC News on Friday that the Pentagon could deploy as many as 5,000 National Guard troops to the country’s southwest borders to stem the flow of illegal immigrants.
The White House said it was seeking time from television networks for the president’s remarks on Monday at 8 p.m. ET. Bush, trying to build momentum for legislation that could provide millions of illegal immigrants a chance to become American citizens, is to speak from the Oval Office.
“This is crunch time,” Tony Snow, the new White House press secretary, told reporters.
Senate passage of the legislation appears assured, but many House Republicans oppose allowing illegal immigrants now in the country a chance at citizenship. The deployment of military troops to stem the flow of more illegal immigrants could be a way to ease that opposition.

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The same administration, on the same issue in 2005:

President uses law's escape clause to drop funding for new homeland security force



Michael Hedges, Houston Chronicle
Wednesday, February 9, 2005

Washington -- The law signed by President Bush less than two months ago to add thousands of border patrol agents along the U.S.-Mexico border has crashed into the reality of Bush's austere federal budget proposal, officials said Tuesday. Officially approved by Bush on Dec. 17 after extensive bickering in Congress, the National Intelligence Reform Act included the requirement to add 10,000 border patrol agents in the five years beginning with 2006. Roughly 80 percent of the agents were to patrol the southern U.S. border from Texas to California, along which thousands of people cross into the United States illegally every year. But Bush's proposed 2006 budget, revealed Monday, funds only 210 new border agents. The shrunken increase reflects the lack of money for an army of border guards and the capacity to train them, officials said. Retired Adm. James Loy, acting head of the Department of Homeland Security until nominee Michael Chertoff takes over, said funding only 210 new agents was a "recognition that we need to balance those things as we go on down the road with other priorities." The White House referred questions about the border agents to the Homeland Security Department. The law signed by Bush had a caveat that went virtually unreported at the time. A summary, published by the Senate Government Affairs Committee, required the government to increase the number of border patrol agents by at least 2,000 per year, "subject to available appropriations." Democrats were unhappy that the proposed budget used the escape clause so soon after the president approved the huge boost in border agents. "We know we must do more to shore up security along our borders," said Sen. Joe Lieberman of Connecticut, top Democrat on the Senate Governmental Affairs Committee. "The president's budget does not even attempt to meet this challenge." Some Republicans also were displeased. "This is an area of homeland security that needs to be ramped up in order to increase surveillance and patrols of our nation's vast and often remote borders," said Sen. Susan Collins of Maine, chair of the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee. A Jan. 24 letter signed by leading Republican lawmakers implored the president to fully fund the new law "in order to secure our borders against infiltration by terrorists." The lead signer was Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., chairman of the House Judiciary Committee and a leader of GOP efforts to toughen immigration laws and anti-terrorism statutes.
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Old 05-13-2006, 04:41 PM   #2
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Old 05-13-2006, 05:25 PM   #4
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I've seen this quote occasionally for years, but can't find the backstory on it. Not to put too fine a point on it, but WTF does it mean?
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This whole deploying the national guard along the border idea is just another band-aid solution. If the gov't really wants to crackdown on the illegal immigration problem... 1) Crackdown on companies who employ illegals, 2) Ban public schools from enrolling children (under the age of 18) of illegal parents (even if the kids were born in this country).

If these people can't get a job and can't send their kids to school there is less of an incentive to try to enter this country illegally.
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Old 05-13-2006, 11:19 PM   #6
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This whole deploying the national guard along the border idea is just another band-aid solution. If the gov't really wants to crackdown on the illegal immigration problem... 1) Crackdown on companies who employ illegals, 2) Ban public schools from enrolling children (under the age of 18) of illegal parents (even if the kids were born in this country).

If these people can't get a job and can't send their kids to school there is less of an incentive to try to enter this country illegally.
3) Erect a viable border fortification from Brownsville, TX to Imperial Beach, CA and effectively patrol it.
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I've seen this quote occasionally for years, but can't find the backstory on it. Not to put too fine a point on it, but WTF does it mean?
It's a cult classic in the "gamer" world. Some Japanese-written game that had badly broken English. In the game, apparently catching "bases" was important, and "All your base are belong to us" was what you would see if the game beat you and took all your bases.
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Old 05-13-2006, 11:49 PM   #9
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It's a cult classic in the "gamer" world. Some Japanese-written game that had badly broken English. In the game, apparently catching "bases" was important, and "All your base are belong to us" was what you would see if the game beat you and took all your bases.

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Thank you gentlemen.

Perhaps the Italian gentleman was correct when he said Translatore, Trattore.
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Thank you gentlemen.

Perhaps the Italian gentleman was correct when he said Translatore, Trattore.

OK whats this one mean?

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The translator is a traitor. When something is translated, it's original meaning is somewhat distorted or outright lost.
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Funny, babelfish had it as Translatore Tractor I thought thats helpful!

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