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Old 07-20-2006, 05:30 PM  
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Bush wants #1 money

July 20, 2006

Bush could be late for Saints camp

Agent says unsigned Heisman Trophy winner needs to be treated like No. 1 pick

By Michael Wallace

How soon New Orleans Saints top draft pick Reggie Bush reports to Jackson for training camp may depend on how quickly team officials follow through on a draft night pledge, a Bush representative said.

Mike Ornstein, Bush's marketing agent, said Wednesday that Saints owner Tom Benson and general manager Mickey Loomis told Bush that he would be treated during contract negotiations as if he were the first overall pick in the April NFL draft.

The Saints used the No. 2 pick on Bush, the Heisman Trophy winning running back out of Southern Cal, after Houston surprisingly chose defensive end Mario Williams with the top pick.

Ornstein told The Clarion-Ledger on Wednesday that it's likely Bush and the Saints won't reach a deal on a contract before training camp opens July 28 at Millsaps College.

"Do we feel like he'll be there at the start?" Ornstein said in a telephone interview from his California office. "I'm not sure where we are right now. I'd say probably not, at this stage. ... We're not trying to be the bad guys. We want the Saints to live up to what they told Reggie at the draft."

Apparently at issue is whether the Saints will offer Bush, who was widely rated the top player in the draft, a more lucrative deal than Houston gave Williams.

Williams a former North Carolina State pass rusher, has reportedly agreed to a six-year contract with Texas worth $54 million, with $26.5 million in guaranteed pay.

Saints general manager Mickey Loomis, through a team spokesman, declined an interview request Wednesday.

Bush said during the Saints' rookie mini-camp in May that he instructed his team of agents to do "whatever it takes" to make sure a deal was reached that would allow him to report to camp on time.

Ornstein is one of at least two representatives that handle Bush's professional matters. Ornstein said he primarily negotiates the player's endorsement deals. Joel Segal, who will negotiate Bush's NFL contract, said he will not comment on where discussions stood with the Saints.

"I don't want to get caught up in holdouts and things like that," Bush said in May after his first offseason workout with the team. "I think it's important to start off on a good foot and a good note ... not only with the team, but with the city."

The Saints have signed three of their eight 2006 draft picks in the past 10 days. But the team's top four picks remain unsigned a week before players report, which is not uncommon among NFL teams. Many deals, especially ones involving higher-round picks, get done weeks into training camp.

Ornstein's comments Wednesday came a day after the agent for quarterback Vince Young, chosen No. 3 overall by Tennessee, said he was heading to Nashville to get a deal done in time for Young to open camp with the Titans next week.

Ornstein said Bush is in Los Angeles, where he shot a commercial for Pepsi on Tuesday and has been working out at USC's campus.

Bush has already signed endorsement deals with Adidas, Subway restaurants and Hummer.

And he has already established deep ties to New Orleans, where he has purchased a downtown condo and has donated thousands of dollars to local charities through his endorsement companies.

Segal, who also represents Michael Vick, has made high-end deals since 1999, when he landed ex-Packers star Antonio Freeman what was then the biggest signing bonus ever paid to an NFL receiver.

"We're confident the Saints will live up to what they stated at the beginning, that Reggie would be treated like the top pick," Ornstein said. "He's been at every camp, at every workout, out in the community. The Saints sold 15,000 season tickets the week after he was drafted. His impact has been huge."
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Old 07-20-2006, 05:49 PM   #2
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Old 07-20-2006, 05:50 PM   #3
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Question: How are Rain Man and Reggie Bush similar?


Answer: We both want #1 money, but neither of us were #1 picks.
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Old 07-20-2006, 06:15 PM   #4
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Agents and managers. Yeah. Awesome.

I think everybody should leverage themselves while they're hot, but....he'll get it.

I think the Saints are trying to keep some money for Ty Law.
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Old 07-20-2006, 06:16 PM   #5
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If I were a good illustrator, I'd cartoon a pic of Bush with his finger in a hole in the Levy. (you know, like the boy and the dike.)
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Old 07-20-2006, 06:41 PM   #6
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He deserves #1 money too. At least as much as any of these guys "deserve" this kind of money for playing a game. It's not his fault the Texans are idiots. Can anyone say Tony Mandrich?
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Old 07-20-2006, 06:44 PM   #7
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Not surprising at all. He will probably get close to it.

Just what tightwad Tom Benson didnt want...

But if he passed on Bush, they would have strung him up in NO
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Old 07-20-2006, 07:19 PM   #8
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...people are going to learn the hard way that Bush is not a top 5 pick....he just doesn't touch the ball enough on offense...I could understand if he had Vick speed and a Young arm...but he doesn't...he's a situational back and a receiver. He's not worht 60 mill over 5 years
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Old 07-20-2006, 07:22 PM   #9
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...people are going to learn the hard way that Bush is not a top 5 pick....he just doesn't touch the ball enough on offense...I could understand if he had Vick speed and a Young arm...but he doesn't...he's a situational back and a receiver. He's not worht 60 mill over 5 years

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Old 07-20-2006, 07:26 PM   #10
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If Bush holds out, than Deuce McAllister would be an attractive fantasy pick. Just something to consider.
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Old 07-20-2006, 07:28 PM   #11
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He deserves #1 money too. At least as much as any of these guys "deserve" this kind of money for playing a game. It's not his fault the Texans are idiots. Can anyone say Tony Mandrich?
he wasn't the 1st pick so he doesn't deserve it.


the money isn't based on taletn because nobody really knows who is the best player ..... it's based on what pick you were and whether you are a QB or not.


the best player in the draft is rarely the 1st pick ...... talent has nothing to do with it.
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Old 07-20-2006, 07:43 PM   #12
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he wasn't the 1st pick so he doesn't deserve it.

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That's absurd.

He deserves it if he can get it. What will determine if he deserves it is if he ends up having the leverage to force it out of them. And that is what he SHOULD DO, anyway.

Good for Reggie. That is a joke of a franchise. If he is going to have to put up with playing for that "team", he should be compensated as highly as possible.

He should force it out of them. Good for him.
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Old 07-20-2006, 08:19 PM   #13
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...people are going to learn the hard way that Bush is not a top 5 pick....he just doesn't touch the ball enough on offense...I could understand if he had Vick speed and a Young arm...but he doesn't...he's a situational back and a receiver. He's not worht 60 mill over 5 years

I agree completely
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Old 07-20-2006, 08:23 PM   #14
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Didn't Winslow pull this shit a couple years back? Claimed he was promised by teams that he would have been gone before the Browns picked and thus should be paid as such?

Stuff like this makes me respect Brian Waters for going against the bullshit agent stuff and getting his contract done himself.
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Old 07-20-2006, 08:24 PM   #15
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Good for Reggie. That is a joke of a franchise. If he is going to have to put up with playing for that "team", he should be compensated as highly as possible.

He should force it out of them. Good for him.
Spoken like a true Elway fan.
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