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Old 12-05-2000, 07:52 AM  
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1 minute left, no timeouts and the first play Grbac runs is a five yard QB keeper!

The last play with six seconds is a five yard pass when the goal line is 11 yards away!

Stupidity is the main reason why Elvis will never take any team to a Super Bowl. I have seen to many decisions like these from Elvis. If he hasnt learned by now, he will never learn.

Elvis better pray that Carl is still around come February because no GM in their right mind would pay this loser a 10 million dollar roster bonus.
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Old 12-05-2000, 07:55 AM   #2
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I actually agree that it was a pretty stupid decision. However, have you considered the play calling in this situation? Was Elvis not setup to fail? Couldn't Gonzo recognize he was blanketed and knock the ball to the turf? I think Raye deserves 60 percent of the blame, Elvis 25%, and Gonzo 15%. Complete stupidity.
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Old 12-05-2000, 07:59 AM   #3
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Phobia,

I thought about that too, but I think as a receiver, you are programed to catch whats thrown to you. The plays was dumb. Your best receiver running an in pattern five yards short of the endzone. However, the guy that threw the ball deserves the ultimate blame. Somebody ought to give Grbac a drug screen. QB keeper to start the drive???
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Old 12-05-2000, 08:03 AM   #4
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As a receiver you are programmed to catch the ball. Would a QB not be programmed to try to hit an open receiver. Bad call, you bet, but who the hell calls a play with a crossing pattern underneath anyway. But with you Ken, I am surprised you haven't laid all the blame at the feet of Peterson. Oh, thats right, he signed him.
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Old 12-05-2000, 08:14 AM   #5
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KC Red,

Some of you guys think that Gonzalez was the only guy running a pattern on the last play. Somebody has to go over the middle to draw a defender away from the endzone. This is football 101. The only problem I have is that the play called for the Chiefs best receiver to be that guy. It is inexcusable for Grbac to throw that ball to Gonzalez. Lockett, Alexander, and Morris were all in the endzone. You have to throw it to one of those guys. If it is incomplete, you get another chance. Totally Grbac's fault.

Maybe you should follow the game a little closer. Your remarks sounds something like Grbac would say. "Duhh, we called the wrong play..."

Throw the ball in the endzone dip****!
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Old 12-05-2000, 08:14 AM   #6
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Although I know this post is mere revelry in KC's failures for ones own personal gratification, one only need to look at the final EG stats to realize the 'old' EG is not back.

25/46 350yds, 3 TD's, 1 INT - Those are not 'old' EG numbers.

Yes, the last play was bad, but is it EG's fault that KC was in that position to begin with?

Yeah, let's hang this game and all the other 'L's on EG, the only damn player that's done anything on both sides of the ball.
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Old 12-05-2000, 08:18 AM   #7
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Let's get this strait. That whole situation was ****ed up! Gonzo should have known better to run 5 short of the EZ - even if it was called from the box and Elvis should have known to thrown it incomplete and try once more for the EZ. And finally the moron in the box should have sent 4 to the EZ.

Let's get this out now!!! There were two players last night that played to win - One was MIke Mazlowski and the other was Elvis Grbac. Everyone else should be shot.

The only way Elvis would not be hung to dry today was if he won it. If it had been dropped in the EZ Elvis would fry!

This is unreal!!!

I want one person to tell me who should QB this team when Elvis packs his $hit and goes away. Maybe we can get one in the draft - huh?
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Old 12-05-2000, 08:22 AM   #8
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Titus,

Nice to hear from you! At least you show up here, I havent seen Bliss in weeks.

A QB has a lot of responsibility. He gets paid top dollar. I expect more out of an 8 year veteran than to run a QB keeper with 60 seconds left and no timeouts. I also expect more out of an 8 year veteran than to throw five yards when you need 11 on the last play. Grbac has racked up big numbers. Any QB throwing 40-50 times a game is going to put up those numbers. Plus, he has playmakers at receiver and tight end. Last night, he got most of his yardage in garbage time. Lets not forget he threw a horrible INT and fumbled a snap. When the chiefs needed him most, he showed his true colors. The only stats that really matter are 5 wins and 8 loses.

The Chiefs would be crazy to give him that roster bonus. Only an idiot like Peterson would do that. I will bet that if a new GM is in KC, either Grbac is let go, or he signs for a lot less. You cant win with that guy!
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Old 12-05-2000, 08:27 AM   #9
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[i]Any QB throwing 40-50 times a game is going to put up those numbers.[/i] - Any? Cmon. This from such a learned NFL fan.

Of course, I expect nothing less.

What you call an 8 year NFL veteran, I call a 3rd year starter. Only a dip**** would equate holding a clipboard to actual playing time/experience.

I wouldnt call it garbage time, KC was down by 17, it's obvious to everyone in the stadium and those watching the game, except for apparently you that KC has to throw th ball to catch up. Amazingly, KC does just that and EG is successful.

Yes the only stat that matter is the W/L and only a dip**** would hang all of that on EG.

EG will not get that roster bonus just like last year. Of course, you conveniently forget that as part of your little mantra.<P>
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Old 12-05-2000, 08:32 AM   #10
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I guess the Packers Great Record the last two years is all the Great Favre's doing?

Ken - sir - you are an idiot. Go away.
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Old 12-05-2000, 08:34 AM   #11
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Bob Dole thinks there are plenty of teams that would gladly sign Elvis to a long-term deal. (Well...except for that fantasy team that Ken has.)
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Old 12-05-2000, 08:36 AM   #12
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Dole, mark your words - it will happen and Elvis will come back here and smoke this place. I would not blame him and I will continue to support him - less I say much like Denise and Gannon.
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Old 12-05-2000, 08:39 AM   #13
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Old 12-05-2000, 08:40 AM   #14
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I wouldn't blame the loss solely on EG, but he deserves as much blame as any player, except Maz. The coaches are to blame for this one...AGAIN.

If Maz isn't starting at MLB next year, it's a crime.
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Old 12-05-2000, 08:41 AM   #15
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Packfan--
I guess you think Favre should go since he's only won 14 games over the last two seasons? How about Freeman since he dropped a few passes?

Was it a bad mistake? Yes. Will I defend Grbac on this? No. But I'm not nearly dumb enough to believe the "old" Elvis is back. Last year he's improved, this year he's broken out, and with better coaching next year he'll explode.

What the hell do you care, anyway? Your team has issues you should be dealing with. Try going to a Packer board and discussing that, rather than coming in here to rip the Chiefs with no solid basis for any of your arguments.

Either that or get a life/job/wife. If this is how you spend your time, I pity you.

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