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Old 08-15-2006, 01:49 AM  
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Are you a FF baller or a homer?

If you say you are taking LJ count yourself as a homer.

If you say Shawn Alexander then count yourself as a baller

If you are in a league with QBs that get 6 then you have other options.

This could all change if Roaf comes back so for now assume Roaf is not coming back.
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Old 08-15-2006, 02:01 AM   #2
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I think it's just as "homer" to make a point of going against your players despite all else as it is to go with them.

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Old 08-15-2006, 02:21 AM   #3
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I think it's just as "homer" to make a point of going against your players despite all else as it is to go with them.

Homer.
Not sure I follow you. Are you suggesting due to superstition you would not pick one of our players to keep for jinxing them?

If so I have never followed that, I had both LJ and Gonzo last year and was disappointed on missing out on TGreen.

Won the championship in one league and lost the final in the other so I think I play pretty honestly.
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Old 08-15-2006, 02:58 AM   #4
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LJ is the number one pick in over 75% of the drafts out there. I don't think that makes you a homer just because we happen to be Chiefs fans.
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Old 08-15-2006, 03:07 AM   #5
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Not sure I follow you. Are you suggesting due to superstition you would not pick one of our players to keep for jinxing them?
No, I mean a doom and gloom homer is a homer nonetheless. We're all homers here.
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Old 08-15-2006, 03:59 AM   #6
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LJ is the number one pick in over 75% of the drafts out there. I don't think that makes you a homer just because we happen to be Chiefs fans.
Most of those mags, if not all were published before Roaf retired.
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Old 08-15-2006, 04:12 AM   #7
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Most of those mags, if not all were published before Roaf retired.

I do understand what you are saying but I still look at him as #1 for the mere fact that he ran all over teams during the time that Roaf was out last year. Roaf has a more direct effect on the passing game. I know that effects the running game too but his numbers earn him the respect of the pick. Roaf or not.

Doesn't matter to me anyway because I don't a pick above 3 in any of my drafts and don't expect him to be there.
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Old 08-15-2006, 04:38 AM   #8
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I do understand what you are saying but I still look at him as #1 for the mere fact that he ran all over teams during the time that Roaf was out last year. Roaf has a more direct effect on the passing game. I know that effects the running game too but his numbers earn him the respect of the pick. Roaf or not.

Doesn't matter to me anyway because I don't a pick above 3 in any of my drafts and don't expect him to be there.
I expect to pick him up anywhere from 4 to 7 in my leagues but we have owners who really study the offensive lines as well as the performance last year. I almost guarantee that S Alexander will be 1, LT 2, Tiki 3, Steven Smith 4, Marvin Harrison or Peyton Manning 5, so I figure I can get LJ from 6 to 7 if I end up drafting that low. I would take him as high as 4 if I had the chance though.
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Old 08-15-2006, 04:46 AM   #9
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I expect to pick him up anywhere from 4 to 7 in my leagues but we have owners who really study the offensive lines as well as the performance last year. I almost guarantee that S Alexander will be 1, LT 2, Tiki 3, Steven Smith 4, Marvin Harrison or Peyton Manning 5, so I figure I can get LJ from 6 to 7 if I end up drafting that low. I would take him as high as 4 if I had the chance though.

Well, if your numbers are accurate, I guess I have an outside chance of seeing him in at least one of my leagues.
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Old 08-15-2006, 05:22 AM   #10
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Most of those mags, if not all were published before Roaf retired.
Roaf retiring just solidified LJ as the #1 pick on my draft board.

1) It is not going to affect LJ directly - LJ is more of a north/south downhill type runner. Priest benefited greatly from Roaf and his ability to create a hole where Priest could get to the outside. LJ is a different runner altogether. LJ is much more dependant on the interior line. And he more than proved he is not dependant on Roaf last year in the 3 games totaling 450 yards when Roaf was out.

2) Roaf retiring will mean less blind side protection for Trent. Less blindside protection for Trent will mean a more conservative Trent. A more conservative Trent will mean more running for Larry.
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Old 08-15-2006, 05:41 AM   #11
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If you're looking at ADP data... LJ, Alexander & Tomlinson are a dead heat at the top overall selection.
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Most of those mags, if not all were published before Roaf retired.
CBSSportsline keeps an up to date "average draft position" list and Larry Johnson is still #1. He's got a respectable margin on LT and Alexander.
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Old 08-15-2006, 06:00 AM   #13
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LJ was a completely wasted draft pick. We should have taken Boss Bailey.
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Old 08-15-2006, 06:15 AM   #14
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I expect to pick him up anywhere from 4 to 7 in my leagues but we have owners who really study the offensive lines as well as the performance last year. I almost guarantee that S Alexander will be 1, LT 2, Tiki 3, Steven Smith 4, Marvin Harrison or Peyton Manning 5, so I figure I can get LJ from 6 to 7 if I end up drafting that low. I would take him as high as 4 if I had the chance though.
Why would anyone take a QB in the first round?

Rounds 1 and 2 are where you want to get your RB's. Every league I've been in, you have to start 2 RB's and 1 QB. Maybe it's just because I'm in a 16 team league, but still.
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Why would anyone take a QB in the first round?

Rounds 1 and 2 are where you want to get your RB's. Every league I've been in, you have to start 2 RB's and 1 QB. Maybe it's just because I'm in a 16 team league, but still.
Both my leagues are 8 team leagues, only Manning rates up there he will score as high as a top 5 runningback or a top 2 WR.
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