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Old 08-28-2006, 07:55 AM  
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OK, I own a old home, it was built around 1917.

This morning my wife notices that we have water dripping into our 2nd flor bathroom from the roof. (Its raining out).

I went into the attic and notice that the north side of the cheminey is wet. How do I fix that? Is there some sort of rubber boot I can put around it. Also my roof is original clay tile, so I can't really rip it up.

Question two.

While I was in the attic I noticed that it was breezy up there. There is blown in insulation on the floor but nothing on the above rafters. Can I insulate those? My AC unit is also in the attic.

My heating bills are a bitch and I'm already nervous about this winter.
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Old 08-28-2006, 07:58 AM   #2
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Might as well burn the place down. It's unfixable.
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Old 08-28-2006, 07:58 AM   #3
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Old 08-28-2006, 08:00 AM   #4
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For the leaky roof... you need to locate where the leak is coming from. If it's a hole in the roof, fix that... if it's separation away from the chimney, you might be able to just seal around the chimney.

I've never seen insulation on the rafters, but I think it wouldn't be a problem to add more insulation to the attic floor (or better insulation on the floor)...

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Old 08-28-2006, 08:03 AM   #5
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I know nothing of clay tile roofing repair. JSP or phildo are probably your best bet.

If its just leaking along the chimney, you might be able to tar it.
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Old 08-28-2006, 08:05 AM   #6
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As for your heating/electric bills... this sounds really simple, but I'm not trying to insult you... make sure all of your filters are changed at least once a season (cold and hot) and make sure no furniture is blocking any of your vents... I've also read that it's poor energy usage to turn vents off to rooms or to close doors.
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Old 08-28-2006, 08:06 AM   #7
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Insulating the rafters would be of little value. As far as the leak goes, your best bet is to call a roofer, judging from the questions you're asking.
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Old 08-28-2006, 08:06 AM   #8
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OK, I own a old home, it was built around 1917.

This morning my wife notices that we have water dripping into our 2nd flor bathroom from the roof. (Its raining out).

I went into the attic and notice that the north side of the cheminey is wet. How do I fix that? Is there some sort of rubber boot I can put around it. Also my roof is original clay tile, so I can't really rip it up.

Question two.

While I was in the attic I noticed that it was breezy up there. There is blown in insulation on the floor but nothing on the above rafters. Can I insulate those? My AC unit is also in the attic.

My heating bills are a bitch and I'm already nervous about this winter.
You have two choices with the chimney.

1. Do it right and pay someone to remove the tile in the area and fix the flashing around the chimney. It may include needing new counter flashing cut into the brick, and possibly tuck pointing the mortar. Probably close to a $1k repair.

2. Tar around the chimney where it meets the roof. It will look crappy and will need to be redone every year or two, and it may not even fix the problem. Cost around $100, maybe less.


As for the insulation, your attic should be near the same temperature as the outside. That breeze you feel is necessary ventilation. It removes the moisture from the attic that is produced in the home from everyday living (cooking, showers, etc). If you want more insulation, put it on the floor. Stuffing it betwen rafters serves no purpose because your ventilation still has to bring in warm/cool outside air.
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Old 08-28-2006, 08:20 AM   #9
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Thanks guys.

As for my heating system, I have hot water heat.

My house is like a cave. Its great in the fall and sping, as it stays cool till it gets really hot out side, stays warm till it gets really cold.
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Old 08-28-2006, 08:57 AM   #10
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JSP's answers were perfect. You should have 12-18 inches of "blown" insulation on your attic floor. If you do not then you're wasting money. Blow more insulation in there.
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Old 08-28-2006, 09:01 AM   #11
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JSP's answers were perfect. You should have 12-18 inches of "blown" insulation on your attic floor. If you do not then you're wasting money. Blow more insulation in there.
Next question.........how can I get my wife to blow my insulation????
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Old 08-28-2006, 09:01 AM   #12
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JSP's answers were perfect. You should have 12-18 inches of "blown" insulation on your attic floor. If you do not then you're wasting money. Blow more insulation in there.
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Old 08-28-2006, 09:04 AM   #13
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You have two choices with the chimney.

1. Do it right and pay someone to remove the tile in the area and fix the flashing around the chimney. It may include needing new counter flashing cut into the brick, and possibly tuck pointing the mortar. Probably close to a $1k repair.

2. Tar around the chimney where it meets the roof. It will look crappy and will need to be redone every year or two, and it may not even fix the problem. Cost around $100, maybe less.
I'd spend the $$ now and have it done right, if possible. I witnessed my Dad battle leaking around our chimney growing up...year after year after year. He tarred it every year and it still managed to leak and eventually caused rotting. I think it still leaks a little to this day.
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Next question.........how can I get my wife to blow my insulation????
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Old 08-28-2006, 11:32 AM   #15
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The chimney flashing could have no problems,it could be cracks in chimney, water can come in from anywhere. Good Luck. Call an experienced roofer, from a reputable company. Should cost around $150. to reflash the chimney. Repointing the brick could cost more.
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