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Old 09-10-2006, 07:25 PM  
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Play-action pass. Did we use it much?

I didn't set my TiVo for the game today, so I can not go back and re-watch to see for myself. I just don't recall us using the play-action very much to help the O-line buy a little more time for our QB's. I know that when Roaf went down last year, it took AS 2 or 3 games before he went to the play-action vs the straight drop back pass.

I do remember it on a fake draw to LJ once or twice, but that is about it.
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Old 09-10-2006, 07:27 PM   #2
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I was thinking they should have done that at least once. Especially in the first half before it started raining. You gotta test it deep with a back like LJ.
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Old 09-10-2006, 07:28 PM   #3
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Someone said that when we used it they just ignored it and went right after Trent. Don't know if that's accurate or not.
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Old 09-10-2006, 07:29 PM   #4
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well I didn't watch every play so I could have missed something
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Old 09-10-2006, 08:29 PM   #5
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Doesn't play action work when you are running the ball successfully and you draw the DB's up? They didn't really run the ball all that much to set it up.
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Old 09-10-2006, 08:31 PM   #6
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We've come out before throwing play action passes and barely running it, at least for a drive or two. We did that against Carolina in 2004.

I couldn't believe we didn't run a single play action pass on our first two drives. It seemed that way, anyway.
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Old 09-10-2006, 09:45 PM   #7
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Actually I'd say they were running too much PA pass and too many 7 step drops in particular. I couldn't BELIEVE the playcalling did not take into account black was at RT. I thought the offensive line did an excellent job considering the playcalling and how long they were being asked to pass protect.

what really contributed to losing the game IMO was too much of a vanilla defense in the 2nd quarter. Inability to stop the run out of that base cover 2.
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Old 09-10-2006, 10:18 PM   #8
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I noticed the same thing...

Coogs,

I found myself asking the same question during the game. I'm very surprised we didn't run LJ more, and maybe that has something to do with it.

Does anybody know what our run/pass count was (by quarter)?

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Old 09-10-2006, 10:26 PM   #9
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Coogs,

I found myself asking the same question during the game. I'm very surprised we didn't run LJ more, and maybe that has something to do with it.

Does anybody know what our run/pass count was (by quarter)?

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Here are LJ's carries breakdown:

1st quarter - 7
2nd quarter - 2
3rd quarter - 5
4th quarter - 3
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Old 09-10-2006, 10:33 PM   #10
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Here are LJ's carries breakdown:

1st quarter - 7
2nd quarter - 2
3rd quarter - 5
4th quarter - 3
He should have that by halftime.
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Old 09-10-2006, 10:51 PM   #11
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Here are LJ's carries breakdown:

1st quarter - 7
2nd quarter - 2
3rd quarter - 5
4th quarter - 3
Thanks. Do we know how many passes we threw?

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Old 09-11-2006, 09:14 AM   #12
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Doesn't play action work when you are running the ball successfully and you draw the DB's up? They didn't really run the ball all that much to set it up.
Yep! And we were running the ball successfully early. I would have thought the play-action was setting itself up nicely. Instead, from what I can recall, most of the passing was straight drop back passing.

And the only real ball fake to LJ I can remember was the fake pass, fake draw, pass play that took an hour to develop. And IIRC, that one wound up in a sack too.

This team is built for the play action passing game. A powerful RB. A great TE. Marginal WR's. Great run blockers, marginal pass protectors at best.
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Old 09-11-2006, 09:18 AM   #13
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We basically didn't take any shots down field either. Seems like I remember one pass to Kennison that was about 20 yards downfield but nothing else. You guys remember anything else?
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Old 09-11-2006, 09:19 AM   #14
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He should have that by halftime.
17 carries at halftime.

I'm sure that would have sparked a few "Herm is killing our offense" threads.
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Old 09-11-2006, 09:25 AM   #15
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Yep! And we were running the ball successfully early. I would have thought the play-action was setting itself up nicely. Instead, from what I can recall, most of the passing was straight drop back passing.

And the only real ball fake to LJ I can remember was the fake pass, fake draw, pass play that took an hour to develop. And IIRC, that one wound up in a sack too.

This team is built for the play action passing game. A powerful RB. A great TE. Marginal WR's. Great run blockers, marginal pass protectors at best.
We weren't running the ball well.

Go back and look at the situational playcalling.

In the first drive, LJ fumbled for a loss of 8 yards.

In the 2nd drive, he had 2 runs for no gain, one for 1 yard, and one for 2 yards. All but one of those were on FIRST DOWN, putting us behind the curve for running on 2nd and 3rd because we were in long-yardage situations.
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