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Old 09-12-2006, 07:39 AM  
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Is Gonzalez to Blame?

I love Tony as much as the next guy, and this is pure speculation, but when Willie was out last year, didnt Tony take on more of a blocking role to protect the QB? I know Tony did a lot of bitching because he knows that he is more effective as a pass catcher........and I notice that Tony had 10 catches against the Bengals which means he wasnt doing a whole lot of pass protecting/run blocking.

Obviously our line suffered because our tackles suck, but did it also hurt that Tony (assuming......) made it clear to the new staff that he is a pass catcher and not a blocker?
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Old 09-12-2006, 07:56 AM   #2
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Did you noticed that Tony got most of those catches on one drive late in the game with Huard as QB?
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Old 09-12-2006, 07:56 AM   #3
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Your entire theory is based purely on speculation of what Tony demnded of his coaches. Beyond that, it's assuming that the coaches bend to Tony's will rather than make decision based on what's best for the team overall. Finally, it's putting the blame in the wrong place. Regardless of Tony Gonzalez, the Tackles failed to do their job. He can't be expected to do it for them.

Overall I'd say your premise is speculative at best, and pretty ridiculous.
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Old 09-12-2006, 08:02 AM   #4
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That is crazy talk right there
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Old 09-12-2006, 08:04 AM   #5
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That thinking is the same as blaming the Chiefs offense for the teams lack of playoff success during the DV years.
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Old 09-12-2006, 08:11 AM   #6
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Old 09-12-2006, 08:12 AM   #7
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OK, well then let me rephrase........

Since Jordan Black and Kyle Turley are incompetent pieces of shit, would the Chiefs be better served to have Tony G. play more of a blocking role to keep another quarterback's head from getting mashed in?

Especially since they went out and got another possession type receiver yesterday.

My speculation is based on the fact that it seemed that Tony G. was bitching and moaning about not getting enough looks last year......which is true, right?
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Old 09-12-2006, 08:12 AM   #8
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Quite frankly, as much as Gonzo has contributed to this team, and as much as we were reminded of the fact that he is still THE BEST TE in the NFL, I'm not going to talk bad about him.

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Old 09-12-2006, 08:17 AM   #9
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OK, well then let me rephrase........

Since Jordan Black and Kyle Turley are incompetent pieces of shit, would the Chiefs be better served to have Tony G. play more of a blocking role to keep another quarterback's head from getting mashed in?

Especially since they went out and got another possession type receiver yesterday.

My speculation is based on the fact that it seemed that Tony G. was bitching and moaning about not getting enough looks last year......which is true, right?
The answer your looking for is Jason Dunn.
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Old 09-12-2006, 08:17 AM   #10
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Not to go Mecca on everyone, but Gates is better than Gonzalez. Not by the margin that most claim, but he's more dangerous.
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Old 09-12-2006, 08:32 AM   #11
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Not to go Mecca on everyone, but Gates is better than Gonzalez. Not by the margin that most claim, but he's more dangerous.


When he performs at the same level for several years, then you can make that statement.
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Old 09-12-2006, 08:34 AM   #12
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I don't think Tony is to blame, but I did notice that one of our best blockers (Jason Dunn) didn't see much of the field. I thought that was a bit rediculous.
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Old 09-12-2006, 08:37 AM   #13
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When he performs at the same level for several years, then you can make that statement.
You don't have to out-career a guy to be better than him.

Gates is better than Gonzalez.

Would you contend that Rod "50+ sacks" Coleman is better than Shaun Rogers? Both currently play at a SIMILAR level (with the edge to Rogers, similar to Gates having the edge on Gonzalez), but Coleman has the numbers on him.
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Not to go Mecca on everyone, but Gates is better than Gonzalez. Not by the margin that most claim, but he's more dangerous.
I respectfully disagree....Gates is younger and the Chargers go to him more than our Offense is designed to (or Trent is inclined to) go to him.

Plus....Tony G changed the whole face of the game when he came to the NFL.....Gates came along afterward and needs to do it a little linger before I put him above Tony. Yes, that might be homerism, but TG has been doing this for years and has been the best for so long, that until someone revolutionizes the position, or TG retires, he IMO is still the best.

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Old 09-12-2006, 08:40 AM   #15
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would the Chiefs be better served to have Tony G. play more of a blocking role

That's like using a corvette to pull a boat. If you want your TE to block bring in Dunn. When Gonzo is on the field he should be in pass routes. Leave Cruz back there to block if help is needed.
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