Indy 4 Like Phantom Menace?

**Fire Me Boy!** · 10-05-2006, 08:06 AM

http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/726/726827p1.html

Indy 4 Like Phantom Menace?

Lucas, Spielberg and Ford talk sequel.

August 21, 2006 - Director Steven Spielberg, creator-producer George Lucas and star Harrison Ford have all admitted that the biggest delay in getting Indiana Jones IV before cameras has been juggling their schedules.

But Lucas has now revealed that fans' expectations and story points have also played a role in the slow return of the globe-trotting archaeologist to the big-screen.

"I discovered a McGuffin," Lucas informed Empire Magazine, referring to the old Hitchcockian plot device about something that is only truly relevant because all the characters are after it and thus it advances the plot.

"I told the guys about it and they were a little dubious about it, but it's the best one we've ever found… Unfortunately, it was a little too 'connected' for the others. They were afraid of what the critics would think. They said, 'Can't we do it with a different McGuffin? Can't we do this?' and I said 'No'. So we pottered around with that for a couple of years. And then Harrison really wanted to do it and Steve said, 'Okay'. I said, 'We'll have to go back to that original MacGuffin and take out the offending parts of it and we'll still use that area of the supernatural do deal with it'."

Lucas also addressed the overwhelming anticipation that Indiana Jones IV has to live up to. "We're basically going to do The Phantom Menace. ... People's expectations are way higher than you can deliver. You could just get killed for the whole thing…We would do it for fun and just take the hit with the critics and the fans...But nobody wants to get into it unless they are really happy with it."

Indiana Jones is tentatively slated to start filming in mid-2007 for a 2008 release.

For far more of what Lucas, Spielberg and Ford had to say, check out the latest issue of Empire Magazine.

Brock · 10-05-2006, 08:09 AM

Can anybody explain what he said?

Branden Albert's Huge Balls · 10-05-2006, 08:10 AM

A McGuffin is just a literary device. Sort of like The Holy Grail.

Bowser · 10-05-2006, 08:12 AM

So he's telling us it's going to suck, right?

Brock · 10-05-2006, 08:13 AM

Indy meets Jar Jar Binks?

**Fire Me Boy!** · 10-05-2006, 08:14 AM

Sounds like he came up with something genius, like a Jar Jar Binks for the Indy world and Ford and Spielberg said... "Um.. George... are you sure that's what you want?" And he said, "Yeah, it's brilliant, isn't it?" And they said no... eventually Ford gave in and said "OK, let's do it," followed by Spielberg agreeing with a few changes.

scott free · 10-05-2006, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser

So he's telling us it's going to suck, right?

Fish · 10-05-2006, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock

Can anybody explain what he said?

Something about McDonalds breakfast and the Globetrotters...

Bowser · 10-05-2006, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy!

Sounds like he came up with something genius, like a Jar Jar Binks for the Indy world and Ford and Spielberg said... "Um.. George... are you sure that's what you want?" And he said, "Yeah, it's brilliant, isn't it?" And they said no... eventually Ford gave in and said "OK, let's do it," followed by Spielberg agreeing with a few changes.

Indy + amazing stunts + Henry Jones + blowing up Nazis = big $$$.

We don't need another little Chinese kid acting tough. I have dubious expectations for this movie, based on Darth Lucas's comments.

Branden Albert's Huge Balls · 10-05-2006, 08:21 AM

He's only referring to the Phantom Menace for the hype factor. He's not going to cast some tyke as 8-year old Indiana Jones.

he already did that

Brock · 10-05-2006, 08:22 AM

Harrison Ford's too old.

**Fire Me Boy!** · 10-05-2006, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Indy ... We don't need another little Chinese kid acting tough.

That's Doctor Jones to you, doll!

**Fire Me Boy!** · 10-05-2006, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock

Harrison Ford's too old.

He's lost his second-level burst?

Branden Albert's Huge Balls · 10-05-2006, 08:23 AM

Short Round was the bomb.

And yes, Harrison is too old...this is a bad idea.

Bowser · 10-05-2006, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock

Harrison Ford's too old.

Sadly, I'm going to have to agree.

10-05-2006, 08:06 AM
Fire Me Boy! Cast Iron Jedi Join Date: Nov 2004 Casino cash: $35474	Indy 4 Like Phantom Menace? http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/726/726827p1.html Indy 4 Like Phantom Menace? Lucas, Spielberg and Ford talk sequel. August 21, 2006 - Director Steven Spielberg, creator-producer George Lucas and star Harrison Ford have all admitted that the biggest delay in getting Indiana Jones IV before cameras has been juggling their schedules. But Lucas has now revealed that fans' expectations and story points have also played a role in the slow return of the globe-trotting archaeologist to the big-screen. "I discovered a McGuffin," Lucas informed Empire Magazine, referring to the old Hitchcockian plot device about something that is only truly relevant because all the characters are after it and thus it advances the plot. "I told the guys about it and they were a little dubious about it, but it's the best one we've ever found… Unfortunately, it was a little too 'connected' for the others. They were afraid of what the critics would think. They said, 'Can't we do it with a different McGuffin? Can't we do this?' and I said 'No'. So we pottered around with that for a couple of years. And then Harrison really wanted to do it and Steve said, 'Okay'. I said, 'We'll have to go back to that original MacGuffin and take out the offending parts of it and we'll still use that area of the supernatural do deal with it'." Lucas also addressed the overwhelming anticipation that Indiana Jones IV has to live up to. "We're basically going to do The Phantom Menace. ... People's expectations are way higher than you can deliver. You could just get killed for the whole thing…We would do it for fun and just take the hit with the critics and the fans...But nobody wants to get into it unless they are really happy with it." Indiana Jones is tentatively slated to start filming in mid-2007 for a 2008 release. For far more of what Lucas, Spielberg and Ford had to say, check out the latest issue of Empire Magazine.
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Brock Do it. Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Larryville Casino cash: $142558	Can anybody explain what he said?
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Branden Albert's Huge Balls ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In the Soup Nazis Kitchen Casino cash: $153900	A McGuffin is just a literary device. Sort of like The Holy Grail. __________________ Alex Smith's career record when the opponent scores at least 24 points: 2-27-1
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Bowser What's Clark gonna do, Cotton? Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In Transition Casino cash: $50965211	So he's telling us it's going to suck, right?
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10-05-2006, 08:13 AM	#5
Brock Do it. Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Larryville Casino cash: $142558	Indy meets Jar Jar Binks?
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10-05-2006, 08:14 AM	#6
Fire Me Boy! Cast Iron Jedi Join Date: Nov 2004 Casino cash: $35474	Sounds like he came up with something genius, like a Jar Jar Binks for the Indy world and Ford and Spielberg said... "Um.. George... are you sure that's what you want?" And he said, "Yeah, it's brilliant, isn't it?" And they said no... eventually Ford gave in and said "OK, let's do it," followed by Spielberg agreeing with a few changes.
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10-05-2006, 08:21 AM	#10
Branden Albert's Huge Balls ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In the Soup Nazis Kitchen Casino cash: $153900	He's only referring to the Phantom Menace for the hype factor. He's not going to cast some tyke as 8-year old Indiana Jones. he already did that __________________ Alex Smith's career record when the opponent scores at least 24 points: 2-27-1
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10-05-2006, 08:22 AM	#11
Brock Do it. Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Larryville Casino cash: $142558	Harrison Ford's too old.
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10-05-2006, 08:23 AM	#14
Branden Albert's Huge Balls ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In the Soup Nazis Kitchen Casino cash: $153900	Short Round was the bomb. And yes, Harrison is too old...this is a bad idea. __________________ Alex Smith's career record when the opponent scores at least 24 points: 2-27-1
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