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Old 10-08-2006, 08:24 PM  
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If we had this D the last 5 years, DV would have 3 more SB rings.

What a shame! What is the difference same DC, same players except Law and Hali, just different HC? I don't get it. Please explain.
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Old 10-08-2006, 08:24 PM   #2
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Old 10-08-2006, 08:25 PM   #3
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Dick Vermeil didn't want a defense like this one.
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Old 10-08-2006, 08:26 PM   #4
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New DTs starting. Hali at DE is a HUGE improvement over Hicks. LBers have improved dramatically. Gun has gotten some assistants that can actually coach.
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Old 10-08-2006, 08:27 PM   #5
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There is a reason we didn't have a D like this. I will let you guess what it is.
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Old 10-08-2006, 08:28 PM   #6
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Dick Vermeil didn't want a defense like this one.
If by 'didn't want a defense like this one' you mean that he didn't do nearly enough to get it there, then yes, I agree. That and I don't think he has a clue about how to build a great defense.
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Old 10-08-2006, 08:28 PM   #7
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There is a reason we didn't have a D like this. I will let you guess what it is.
They would have taken the spot away from its rightful owner, Lew Bush.
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Old 10-08-2006, 08:29 PM   #8
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If by 'didn't want a defense like this one' you mean that he didn't do nearly enough to get it there, then yes, I agree. That and I don't think he has a clue about how to build a great defense.
It's not like the Chiefs used a great deal of imagination in how to fix the problem, it was actually pretty elementary. Vermeil simply ignored the problem.
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Old 10-08-2006, 08:33 PM   #9
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Why do you keep posting this stuff when you know what the reaction will be?

It's quite simple:

Having this defense and Dick Vermeil being head coach are mutually exclusive...
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Old 10-08-2006, 08:35 PM   #10
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If by 'didn't want a defense like this one' you mean that he didn't do nearly enough to get it there, then yes, I agree. That and I don't think he has a clue about how to build a great defense.
It's the same players same DC just Hali and Law and the HC is different.
DV didn't butt in on Gun's coaching he let him do his own thing. Didn't he? I think overall this draft class is the one reason why this D is better!

Pollard, Page, Hali and Law is the difference.
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Old 10-08-2006, 08:37 PM   #11
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this was the kinda game that DV woulda lost. Early turnovers and big plays on AZ offense. We woulda been screwed under DV
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Old 10-08-2006, 08:39 PM   #12
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It's the same players same DC just Hali and Law and the HC is different.
DV didn't butt in on Gun's coaching he let him do his own thing. Didn't he? I think overall this draft class is the one reason why this D is better!

Pollard, Page, Hali and Law is the difference.
And who was responsible for this draft class? Anybody other than Herm, right?
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Old 10-08-2006, 08:40 PM   #13
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IF DV were half the coach you think he was......he'd have been smart enough to actually build a defense with some talent.

How many Starters on DVs Defense.....are out of the league now?
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Old 10-08-2006, 08:41 PM   #14
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Hali is about a 1000% upgrade over Hicks, and Law about 300% over Eric "Schlitz" Warfield.

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Old 10-08-2006, 08:43 PM   #15
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And who was responsible for this draft class? Anybody other than Herm, right?
Herm absolutely! Give him full credit.

But would DV not get input this season if he was the HC from CP and others on who best to draft and wouldn't they have drafted defensive players. Would he had picked just duds?
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