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Old 10-17-2006, 07:50 AM  
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Still wrong to bash Surtain?

Because the dude was a f'ing embarrassment on Sunday.

Missed tackles for FUN and I don't remember him actually covering well.

Perhaps it doesn't come across like I'm nitpicking now. Perhaps people will see fit to actually criticize a player who's underperforming after a game when everyone else did the same thing.
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Old 10-17-2006, 07:57 AM   #2
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do you have to make a different thread for all of your thoughts?

Yes, we know. The Chiefs secondary sucked Sunday. Get over it.
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Old 10-17-2006, 08:00 AM   #3
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do you have to make a different thread for all of your thoughts?
Do you have to reply to every thread that you have nothing to offer and/or no interest in?

Get a life...
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Old 10-17-2006, 08:01 AM   #4
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You posted two separate threads about how awful our secondary is...

We all SAW the game Sunday. We all SAW how terrible our secondary played. Why don't we just cut them all!?
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Old 10-17-2006, 08:02 AM   #5
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Why don't we just cut them all!?
Doesn't help. Dumther is still our coordinator...
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Old 10-17-2006, 08:04 AM   #6
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Just out of curiosity... do you think anyone on this team other than LJ is any good?
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Old 10-17-2006, 08:04 AM   #7
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You guys are all dumb.

Our defense was the talk of the board until the Pittsburgh game, when we just didn't show up.

Let's see what happens against San Diego before we start bashing our coaching staff. We had one hiccup...we're 2-3...things could be a lot worse.
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Old 10-17-2006, 08:04 AM   #8
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Doesn't help. Dumther is still our coordinator...
That's one point. Our mediocre-at-absolute-best interior linemen is another.

Just shut the **** up and stay out if you don't like it, Hootie. You've got no say in the threads that are started, commented on or finished. The only thing you do with your worthless contribution is bump the thread to the top, and if you hate it so much, that's a dumb move.
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Old 10-17-2006, 08:06 AM   #9
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Just out of curiosity... do you think anyone on this team other than LJ is any good?
Of course. Pretty dumb statement, really. But I'll help you out (because it's wrong to bash players that suck):

Kennison - solid player; in no way a #1 WR, however
Green - top-10 QB when healthy
Waters - good player
Gonzalez - good player

Eh, that'll do. No sense in wasting time listing every player. The defense has some good players (Hali, Allen, DJ, Law) but it also has some bad and mediocre players - in most instances, they get free passes.
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Old 10-17-2006, 08:07 AM   #10
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why do you even post here?

No one gives a **** what you say. We could win out and you'd still find something negative about every player on the Chiefs.

Everyone here understands we didn't play well Sunday at Pittsburgh. We know. There have been a million threads stating how bad our secondary was. Go find one of those and post your two cents. No one here wants to read what you think. You're a waste of an account.
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Old 10-17-2006, 08:08 AM   #11
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Our defense was the talk of the board until the Pittsburgh game, when we just didn't show up.
But those who don't see everything through red shades DID point to the weaknesses before this game.

I'm not changing my tune based on the Pittsburgh embarrassment. Surtain wasn't nearly worth $50M before the game and Sunday only reinforced that.

I still love the defense as a unit, its potential and many of the players.
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Old 10-17-2006, 08:12 AM   #12
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You guys are all dumb.

Our defense was the talk of the board until the Pittsburgh game, when we just didn't show up.

Let's see what happens against San Diego before we start bashing our coaching staff. We had one hiccup...we're 2-3...things could be a lot worse.

Hey, This just in, " Our Defense Is Still The Talk Of This BB " , OK !


FTR, the fans have every right to be pissed and concerned with this D, I was in the beginning of the year. Even after the # 4 ranking D we had,most everybody was goo goo over it , it was a paper ranking, it was fake . I knew it was, many here felt the same way, but many here were taken in by the hype of the # 4 ranking and the quick to judge media.

We will not be Top 10 with aging corners, weak DT and inept coaches.

It is what it is ........... Deal with it.
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Old 10-17-2006, 08:17 AM   #13
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Just for curiousity how much of the coverage breakdowns can be laid on the safetys?

The cover 2 depends on good safety play. The TD the Ward was because the safety didn't pick up Ward after Law released him. Neither Law nor Surtain has impressed me but the safety play seems to be worse.
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Old 10-17-2006, 08:22 AM   #14
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Hey, This just in, " Our Defense Is Still The Talk Of This BB " , OK !


FTR, the fans have every right to be pissed and concerned with this D, I was in the beginning of the year. Even after the # 4 ranking D we had,most everybody was goo goo over it , it was a paper ranking, it was fake . I knew it was, many here felt the same way, but many here were taken in by the hype of the # 4 ranking and the quick to judge media.

We will not be Top 10 with aging corners, weak DT and inept coaches.

It is what it is ........... Deal with it.
I disagree that the ranking was a mirage, it included 2 good performances IMO against 2 good teams as well as 2 bad ones....the dinvr game even though a loss made me proud, and mighty palmer looked mighty average against us to. Even with this ridiculous blow-out we are still #11, when was the last time we were ranked that high? I dont think that numbers lie and i really believe we will get an angry pride game from them this sunday.
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Old 10-17-2006, 08:39 AM   #15
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I disagree that the ranking was a mirage, it included 2 good performances IMO against 2 good teams as well as 2 bad ones....the dinvr game even though a loss made me proud, and mighty palmer looked mighty average against us to. Even with this ridiculous blow-out we are still #11, when was the last time we were ranked that high? I dont think that numbers lie and i really believe we will get an angry pride game from them this sunday.
Well I hope you're right but I've seen this defense play mirage ball before, particularly in I think it was 2003 when we started strong and then just fell apart in the 2nd half of the year under GRob. An impressinve defense will finish stronger than it may start. Now granted this was game 5 for us and it may have been a blip, and I hope i'm wrong, but I think once people start figuring out what we're running, they won't have too many problems exploiting it. We still struggle rushing the passer and our interior line still sucks. And this is three years later under Dumther, with his guys. Herm is gonna slowly start figuring this out...
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