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Old 01-08-2007, 12:26 PM  
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Most troubling quote regarding the playoff loss

From Jo-Po's article:

"No one could have imagined it turning out exactly this way.

Well, maybe one guy imagined it.

I wasn’t surprised,” Chiefs running back Larry Johnson grumbled. “I knew what was going to happen.”"

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Herm is supposed to be a great motivator. He's not an X's and O's guy. He doesn't call plays on game day. He's supposed to motivate his players. He's supposed to get them to believe.

11 moths ago Herm took LJ aside and told him during his first meeting that he was the man. He was going to get the carries he's been asking for, no controversy, no competing for the job - LJ is the man.

How sad is it that going into the playoff game the player that was going to carry the load, the most important player in Herm's offense, didn't believe his team was going to win. He knew the Chiefs were going to lose.

That is downright pathetic.
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Old 01-08-2007, 12:28 PM   #2
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To be fair, LJ "knew" that the offensive gameplan wasn't going to work. He never said that he knew the team was going to lose, rather that the Colts would be able to stop the run.
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Old 01-08-2007, 12:29 PM   #3
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I could be wrong, but I thought the full quote implied that LJ knew that Indy would come out with a chip on their shoulder and play 8-9 in the box.......
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Old 01-08-2007, 12:29 PM   #4
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When the camera crews showed LJ sulking alone on the sidelines, he sure looked like he was interested in the game's outcome.
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Old 01-08-2007, 12:30 PM   #5
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Herm's predictablility in play calling is second to none. LJ knew that and tried making a comment on it before this game. What did Herm do, more of the same.
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Old 01-08-2007, 12:30 PM   #6
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When the camera crews showed LJ sulking alone on the sidelines, he sure looked like he was interested in the game's outcome.
Missed his nights out in NY.
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Old 01-08-2007, 12:32 PM   #7
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Herm's predictablility in play calling is second to none. LJ knew that and tried making a comment on it before this game. What did Herm do, more of the same.
Well, Herm isn't calling plays.
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Old 01-08-2007, 12:34 PM   #8
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Well, Herm isn't calling plays.

Nope but he will sure hammer his OC for not running Butt Sex offense...

Proved that is pre-season...
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Old 01-08-2007, 12:34 PM   #9
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I could be wrong, but I thought the full quote implied that LJ knew that Indy would come out with a chip on their shoulder and play 8-9 in the box.......

The sad thing is that I guess nobody on the Chiefs felt they were gonna do that. If only the media could have alerted Herm the way they alerted Indy to our gameplan.
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Old 01-08-2007, 12:35 PM   #10
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To be fair, LJ "knew" that the offensive gameplan wasn't going to work. He never said that he knew the team was going to lose, rather that the Colts would be able to stop the run.
The full sentence prior to "No one cold have ..." was

"The Colts won 23-8. It might as well have been 123-8. No one could have imagined it turning out exactly this way."

Posnaski was referring to the score and result, perhaps LJ wasn't, but in any event, why should LJ have thought the Colts would be able to stop the run?

The Colts didn't stop the run for 16 weeks. They didn't stop the run against the Texan's piss poor OL and Ron Dayne.
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Old 01-08-2007, 12:35 PM   #11
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Herm's predictablility in play calling is second to none. LJ knew that and tried making a comment on it before this game. What did Herm do, more of the same.
yep ...

the offensive players knew that being so predictable makes their job alot harder.


in this day and age, the defenses are too good to beat without some sort of misdirection or surprise.


dam ... even Marty has learned that
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Old 01-08-2007, 12:38 PM   #12
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yep ...

the offensive players knew that being so predictable makes their job alot harder.


in this day and age, the defenses are too good to beat without some sort of misdirection or surprise.


dam ... even Marty has learned that
Yep. Playing not lose is fool's gold. It simply won't work in the playoffs, if you luck in there due to an easy schedule.
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Old 01-08-2007, 12:38 PM   #13
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Well, Herm isn't calling plays.
no he's not ... but he made it perfectly clear earlier in the year that he did not approve of Solari throwing the ball very much.

the gameplan changed because Edwards wanted it to change.


Herman Edwards doesn't call the players but he dam sure well dictates the general idea of the plays.
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Old 01-08-2007, 12:38 PM   #14
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When the camera crews showed LJ sulking alone on the sidelines, he sure looked like he was interested in the game's outcome.
Anybody who thinks LJ doesn't want to win is wacked. He may say some things you don't want him to but bottom line is the the guy wants to compete and win. All season when we have went to a pass first run second scheme it has opened up the running game. In spite of that with all his wisdom Herm has returned to a run first throw second plan that continued to fail. I have no confidence we are ever going to win it all under Herm.
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Old 01-08-2007, 12:39 PM   #15
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That was the most troubling for me as well. Nothing like our workhorse resigned to failure before the game even starts.

We need to either cut Herm loose, or get people in there who will respond to him.

I could care less which, but to put on the display ON THE FIELD, that Gonzo, Dante, TrINT, Larry, Kennison, et al did, then grumble that they knew it was gonna happen is pure bullshit. All the drops, muffs, footstomps, and stuffs, then blaming it on the playcalling is bullshit, too.
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