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Old 01-18-2007, 08:48 AM  
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Dean - No griping here about KU streak

By Rick Dean
The Capital-Journal
Published Thursday, January 18, 2007

The winning streak is at 10 games and counting, their record in the Big 12 Conference still unblemished. But I had to look this up to be certain after listening to some of the grumbling voiced after Kansas' three-point home victory over border rival Missouri on Monday.

Here I was, foolish man, thinking it was significant that in a six-day period, the fifth-ranked Kansas Jayhawks engineered a commanding 30-point rout at home over then ninth-ranked Oklahoma State, went on the road to always tough Hilton Coliseum and defeated young but gutty Iowa State, then returned home to hold off an embattled Missouri team that played one of its best games in its first season under a new coach.

By Tuesday, though, I was corrected by callers to talk radio shows who couldn't comprehend how a supposed national title contender could impose its will on a Top 10 opponent one night, then need an overtime and some late-game magic by a freshman to beat two inferior teams in its next two games.

Not that any of that apprehension is hard to comprehend.

The Jayhawks who had their fans gushing after Oklahoma State are the team their fans expect. The Jayhawks who fought and scraped to beat Iowa State and Missouri are the team they've got. And what concerns them most is wondering which of those teams will show up in mid-March.

Well, the fun part of any sports campaign, especially for teams carrying the high expectations the Jayhawks do every time the ball goes up, is that champions aren't crowned at the midpoint of a season. The performances of January have significance in March mainly in how they help shape a team for the NCAA Tournament, which at Kansas are the only games that anybody cares to count.

That's why I like what happened to KU over the past week. They had the chance to see what they can accomplish when they put it all together. They also saw what it takes to win close games, both at home and on the road, when they don't bring their "A" game and an opponent does.

Some people call this playing up or down to the level of the competition. I see it as the process of learning how to win.

Between now and March, the Jayhawks also will be reminded, likely several times, of what it is to lose a sour taste they last experienced against DePaul back on Dec. 2. That can be helpful experience, too, in preparing for March.

There may be plenty of opportunities for Jayhawk fans to grumble again in the coming months. But the events of the last three games were not such occasions.

Rick Dean can be reached at 295-5628 or rick.dean@cjonline.com.

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Old 01-18-2007, 08:52 AM   #2
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I was listening to 610 yesterday afternoon and they were discussing how KU fans just aren't happy unless they blow out everyone. It's unrealistic to expect them to do so. Not even UNC and Duke do that on a consistent basis.

I'll take the win, however it comes.
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Old 01-18-2007, 09:02 AM   #3
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Old 01-18-2007, 09:13 AM   #4
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Old 01-18-2007, 09:20 AM   #5
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Old 01-18-2007, 09:28 AM   #6
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Obviously this guy didn't see them sleepwalking through that game. They looked terrible.

What does it say about your coaching if you can't get motivated at home playing against your rival?
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Old 01-18-2007, 10:03 AM   #7
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Were are the kitty fans out? Shouldnt they be out bashing KU for something...

I saw where KSU thrashed Baylor last night. Very impressive win..

Second, what is up with Thuggins calling out KSU fan and screaming at him for not showing up? With all the hype from KSU fan, I figured Allen West would fill up.. It will be full for KU game.

Did anyone watch the ISU/CO game last night? How can ISU bring there A+++++++(thanks William) game for KU and get blasted on the road agianst CO? WTF? Agianst CO? This is sickening at best. ISU is a fraud and a Joke.
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Old 01-18-2007, 10:10 AM   #8
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Caywood: Newcomers stoke old rivalry

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Kurt Caywood in Sports, CJ sports columnists, KU

LAWRENCE "Sit down, Mike!" was about all it was missing.
The Missouri-Kansas rivalry thing got a little pregame play, but mostly it was out of habit or a shortage of anything else to talk about. KU had the No. 5 ranking and homecourt for Big Monday. Mizzou had a three-game losing streak, a new coach and seven first-year players.

Nobody was going to be all that surprised if this lacked the fury of a "Sit down, Norm!" classic. Nobody was going to be all that bent if the bitterness took a little while to get its feet back under it.

Nobody could have guessed that what would transpire would be an 80-77 KU win that was another marvelous chapter in a story that started on the bloody antebellum plains.

"I know that our fans have a dislike for Missouri and vice versa," Kansas coach Bill Self said, "but this rivalry is about to take off."

The Tigers may have lacked a previous initiation, but they lacked no initiative. Beaten like an Indian war drum on the boards two days earlier in a loss to Kansas State, they were fearless and ferocious from the start against Kansas, led by a sophomore from St. Louis and newcomer Stefhon Hannah.

Self had done his best to warn the Jayhawks, including a couple of talented freshmen Sherron Collins and Darrell Arthur who also were showing up for their first Border Showdown.

By halftime, MU led in rebounds, trailed by just a point and Self made the point again.

"Coach really broke it down and explained it to us, and then I knew how really important it was to him," Collins said. "He said we're acting like this game isn't important and we don't know the history of the rivalry and we need to step up and play like it's Missouri versus Kansas."

This time, everybody got the message, no one more than Collins and Arthur.

Everybody contributed. The Jayhawks do almost everything by committee.

But when it was time to really come to order, Collins led the way, scoring a game-high 23, and combined with Arthur for 17 of the Jayhawks last 19 points.

Self said he couldn't remember anyone in his time at Kansas, especially a newcomer, taking over the way Collins did. He said that's what KU fans should expect to see if their team is at its best the rest of the way.

"Those guys can be the difference in us being a pretty good team and us being a really good team," he said. "They're the two guys who can take us to a different plateau."

Rest assured they're the guys who are going to make sure this rivalry burns on in the foreseeable future.

Them, and Anderson.

"I thought it was great," the MU coach said. "You've got to enjoy it whether you're the home team or the visiting team and hopefully we can pay tribute to KU when they come to Mizzou Arena."

Kurt Caywood can be reached at (785) 295-1288 or kurt.caywood@cjonline.com.

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Bill Self not being able to motivate his team and have the focus for more than 1 out 4 games is a problem.

it's why they have gotten bounced in the 1st round of the tourney the last couple of years.





blame the fans all you want, but they aren't the problem.
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Old 01-18-2007, 11:11 AM   #10
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Bill Self not being able to motivate his team and have the focus for more than 1 out 4 games is a problem.

it's why they have gotten bounced in the 1st round of the tourney the last couple of years.





blame the fans all you want, but they aren't the problem.

Last year with a Freshman laden team, I could give alittle, but the year before with all the SR's, That was very unacceptable....

Really I wont start judging Self til this years tourney.. The last couple of years were very rocky to say the least....
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Last year with a Freshman laden team, I could give alittle, but the year before with all the SR's, That was very unacceptable....

Really I wont start judging Self til this years tourney.. The last couple of years were very rocky to say the least....
That's pretty much how I feel, as well. If they get bounced early this year, Self is not the guy. Anything less than an Elite Eight appearance is unacceptable, IMO.
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Old 01-18-2007, 11:31 AM   #12
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That's pretty much how I feel, as well. If they get bounced early this year, Self is not the guy. Anything less than an Elite Eight appearance is unacceptable, IMO.

I'm a little higher this year ..... Final Four. FTR, I expect Elite 8 every year......
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I thought self was pretty good. You guys don't **** around I guess.
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Old 01-18-2007, 11:59 AM   #14
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I thought self was pretty good. You guys don't **** around I guess.
Why should they?

UNC didnt, snagged Roy, When Coach Kaoeurwenqe;rqwoski leaves, they wont accept some asshat to come in and stink things up...

Self is a hell of a recuriter, Brounght in amazing talent, now he has to coach that talent to is full potential. Right now I would say he is getting 70% out of that team...


Time will tell, but and Elite 8 or less is a dissappointment if you are KU...

So he better right the ship or KU will be looking for a new coach...
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Were are the kitty fans out? Shouldnt they be out bashing KU for something...

I saw where KSU thrashed Baylor last night. Very impressive win..

It will be full for KU game.

Did anyone watch the ISU/CO game last night? How can ISU bring there A+++++++(thanks William) game for KU and get blasted on the road agianst CO? WTF? Agianst CO? This is sickening at best. ISU is a fraud and a Joke.
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Second, what is up with Thuggins calling out KSU fan and screaming at him for not showing up? With all the hype from KSU fan, I figured Allen West would fill up...
Did Thuggins "Call us out??!!11 Tell me more about this li'l Romey.

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