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Democracy 24 35.29%
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Old 02-06-2007, 04:03 PM  
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If you were forced to choose between democray and free market capitalism...

... which would it be?

I know it may seem like an odd juxtaposition of beliefs that in this country typically go hand in hand... but I've noticed a trend in discussions lately that caused me to consider the question in this way.

Seems like an interesting discussion.

If you were forced to choose between living in a society defined by democracy (but for instance, the people voted for communism/socialism) or one defined by capitalism (but public policy is dictated by an autocratic government) which would you choose and why?
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Old 07-03-2013, 10:36 AM   #196
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If the company could get by with a smaller staff, then by nature of the free market, your company was overstaffed before the increase.

The increase thus did nothing but make management look at that their labor force and find it was being unproductive or that less labor could be more efficient.

If your company was concerned about cost, this would have been fixed without the minimum wage increase.
I see you've never run a business or had one.
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Old 08-26-2016, 06:50 AM   #197
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Note: I don't post here anymore, and I don't intend to return, so don't get too annoyed by my bumping this thread, but I never anticipated such a notable comment from a politician related to a past discussion on this board. So I come back just for a very brief bump.
This still holds... but I guess I find this question (opening post) fascinating and the it's emergence as a central, if not well known, element of the new "Alt-Right" dialogue that was sparked recently. So I've come back briefly to present to everyone: Neoreactionaries

Here's an overview for your reading... (note: published 2013):
https://techcrunch.com/2013/11/22/geeks-for-monarchy/

It also explains a portion of the support for Trump's including the likes of Peter Thiel: (note: Published 2009):
http://www.cato-unbound.org/2009/04/...on-libertarian

And the Trump-Putin connection:
http://theweek.com/articles/453564/w...sed-monarchies

And Trump's generalized authoritarianism:
http://www.vox.com/2016/3/1/11127424...thoritarianism

I guess one risk of posting this here (other than the generalized ridicule that tends to come with a liberal posting here is that drawing out this discussion in this way risks strengthening the Alt-Right/neoreactionary movement by elevating it slightly and in this small way.

I will take that risk, given the opportunity to bump a fairly provocative discussion that we started almost 9 years ago here, and is now gaining national recognition.

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Old 08-26-2016, 07:05 AM   #198
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Old 08-26-2016, 08:23 AM   #199
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Funny how libs never want to call us what we are, a Republic.
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Old 08-26-2016, 08:29 AM   #200
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Funny how libs never want to call us what we are, a Republic.
We aren't. We are a Social Democracy.
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Old 08-26-2016, 08:30 AM   #201
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Old 08-26-2016, 08:35 AM   #202
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We aren't. We are a Social Democracy.
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Old 08-26-2016, 08:47 AM   #203
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We aren't. We are a Social Democracy.
Stevieray is correct. We're a Federal Republic.
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Old 08-26-2016, 07:30 PM   #204
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Aw, poor kid, you can't argue against it so you are reduced to this.
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Old 08-27-2016, 09:58 AM   #205
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This is a ridiculous juxtaposition.

First of all, most countries with 'democratic' in their name usually ARE autocratic states.

Democracy and communism are not synonymous, and capitalism and autocracy are not synonymous. I think the OP is aware of this, so I'll answer based on the weird criteria.

For the record, of the four, I would vote most strongly against autocracy.
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Old 08-27-2016, 10:00 AM   #206
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I see lone iguana is making his 'expenses have nothing to do with profitability' argument.

Christ..
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Old 08-27-2016, 10:03 AM   #207
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We aren't. We are a Social Democracy.
Keep dreaming.

Our democratically elected leaders make decisions. That's not democracy. Its' a republic. The only democracy is on the state level.
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Old 08-27-2016, 12:21 PM   #208
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If you were forced to choose between democray and free market capitalism...

Never heard of DEMOCRAY
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Old 08-27-2016, 12:39 PM   #209
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I see lone iguana is making his 'expenses have nothing to do with profitability' argument.

Christ..
I seery you don't actually know what I was saying.

Typical.
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