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Old 02-06-2007, 03:03 PM  
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If you were forced to choose between democray and free market capitalism...

... which would it be?

I know it may seem like an odd juxtaposition of beliefs that in this country typically go hand in hand... but I've noticed a trend in discussions lately that caused me to consider the question in this way.

Seems like an interesting discussion.

If you were forced to choose between living in a society defined by democracy (but for instance, the people voted for communism/socialism) or one defined by capitalism (but public policy is dictated by an autocratic government) which would you choose and why?
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Old 06-17-2013, 01:04 PM   #46
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Feel free to report jAZ when he bumps 30+ threads in the span of a few hours.
Yeah, the only complaints about comrade crapski's bumps come when he's done it 30+ times in the span of a few hours. Sure.

I'd be surprised if he's ever actually done that, but the complaints often come at first bump. And when you factor in the fact that he was restricted from starting new threads for a while, it's even more remarkably unjust and hypocritical.
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Old 06-17-2013, 01:07 PM   #47
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FWIW,

A) CC was bumping old threads with posts that were totally unrelated to the OP (i.e. bumping a "teacher who loves Obama" thread with an article about a gay man who was assaulted)

B) jAZ said why he was bumping this (even though he didn't need to as his post was obviously related to the OP)

C) jAZ hasn't been doing this multiple times per day for a week.

It's not a double standard when these two's behavior is hardly similar.

Lastly, just as you said, there's outcry on both sides. When Direkshun & Wickedson post things the right doesn't like, there are those that shoot the messenger, same goes for idiots like CC & Pete.
You forgot the most important and relevant dissimilarity. You don't like the CC or the things he posts.

Don't pretend that the only criticisms came when his bumps were irrelevant or excessive because that's just not the case.
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Old 06-17-2013, 01:09 PM   #48
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You forgot the most important and relevant dissimilarity. You don't like the CC or the things he posts.

Don't pretend that the only criticisms came when his bumps were irrelevant or excessive because that's just not the case.
No, I didn't.

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Old 06-17-2013, 01:09 PM   #49
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Yeah, the only complaints about comrade crapski's bumps come when he's done it 30+ times in the span of a few hours. Sure.

I'd be surprised if he's ever actually done that, but the complaints often come at first bump. And when you factor in the fact that he was restricted from starting new threads for a while, it's even more remarkably unjust and hypocritical.
You either have a fantastic selective memory or weren't online when Crappy had his coke fueled rage fest, and literally had the first page and a half filled with ancient bumped threads.

And this is really going to fry your noodle - I didn't even report it to the mods.

Eh, whatever. It's not like this isn't his sixth or seventh different username he's had on here. It's not like he exactly needs any of us to get himself banned.
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Old 06-17-2013, 01:10 PM   #50
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I feel like I did do that once and was rightly criticized for it. I don't remember why I did it, but it was annoying I'm sure. But truth be told, I'd be ok with being banned form this place. I rarely read and almost never post here.
I don't blame you after all that constant whining and crying everything Bush during the Bush years that lead to even a worse disaster in Obama.

It's hard to blame you for not wanting to come back and seeing the disastrous results of all those years of your whining and crying.

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No, I didn't.
We'll have to agree that you're going to cling to your delusion and I'm going to disagree with it.
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You either have a fantastic selective memory or weren't online when Crappy had his coke fueled rage fest, and literally had the first page and a half filled with ancient bumped threads.

And this is really going to fry your noodle - I didn't even report it to the mods.

Eh, whatever. It's not like this isn't his sixth or seventh different username he's had on here. It's not like he exactly needs any of us to get himself banned.
If I wasn't here when that happened (if it ever did) or even if I have selective memory, then the times I remember must be the times that it didn't happen, which of course, validates my criticism.
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Old 06-17-2013, 01:18 PM   #53
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If I wasn't here when that happened (if it ever did) or even if I have selective memory, then the times I remember must be the times that it didn't happen, which of course, validates my criticism.
Impressive wordsmithing, whiteknighteeu.
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I feel like I did do that once and was rightly criticized for it. I don't remember why I did it, but it was annoying I'm sure. But truth be told, I'd be ok with being banned form this place. I rarely read and almost never post here.
Of course not. It was a lot more fun to bash Bush than defend Obama, I'm sure. Especially since Obama is continuing some of the same policies you cried about.
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We'll have to agree that you're going to cling to your delusion and I'm going to disagree with it.
I'm not saying all of his bumps fall into what I described, but I am describing the bump I bitched about and you then "white knighted" CC on.

Please show me where you've defended Direckshun and/or Wickedson when they were given grief for their thread starting/bumping. You may not be in the crowd giving the grief, but I don't see you defending them the way you do CC.
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I'm not saying all of his bumps fall into what I described, but I am describing the bump I bitched about and you then "white knighted" CC on.

Please show me where you've defended Direckshun and/or Wickedson when they were given grief for their thread starting/bumping. You may not be in the crowd giving the grief, but I don't see you defending them the way you do CC.
I don't recall any earnest attempts or suggestions to ban Direckshun or Wickedson.
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I'm not saying all of his bumps fall into what I described, but I am describing the bump I bitched about and you then "whited knighted" CC on.

Please show me where you've defended Direckshun and/or Wickedson when they were given grief for their thread starting/bumping. You may not be in the crowd giving the grief, but I don't see you defending them the way you do CC.
I don't remember being around when Wickedson has been given grief for that. As for Direckshun, I don't think there's any chance that he'll get banned for bumping threads so I don't see any reason to put any energy into his defense.

The fact is that I've been clear that I think the "irrelevant thread bump" rule is stupid to begin with for everyone and I've never criticized anyone for a bump unless it was to point out the hypocrisy of the people who have criticized CC.
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Old 06-17-2013, 01:33 PM   #58
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I don't remember being around when Wickedson has been given grief for that. As for Direckshun, I don't think there's any chance that he'll get banned for bumping threads so I don't see any reason to put any energy into his defense.

The fact is that I've been clear that I think the "irrelevant thread bump" rule is stupid to begin with for everyone and I've never criticized anyone for a bump unless it was to point out the hypocrisy of the people who have criticized CC.
Maybe you were away that day, but a while back, Wickedson started a handful of threads each relating to children being shot by unattended guns. People bitched about him starting multiple threads. Oddly, you weren't there to defend him, yet somehow you're always there to defend CC.
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Maybe you were away that day, but a while back, Wickedson started a handful of threads each relating to children being shot by unattended guns. People bitched about him starting multiple threads. Oddly, you weren't there to defend him, yet somehow you're always there to defend CC.
And were you suggesting his thread starting privileges be revoked? Because I thought you were one of the ones suggesting that about CC. Or am I mistaken?
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I don't recall any earnest attempts or suggestions to ban Direckshun or Wickedson.
No, you guys prefer to the "pile on bitch and moan sans banning." Others just prefer banning so we don't have to bitch again a few months later.
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