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Old 02-28-2007, 01:11 PM  
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Why are sex offender registries legal?

I'm not trying to discuss the merits of a sex offender registry and whether its good or bad, etc. I am certainly not impacted by it, nor is anyone I know. I'm just honestly curious: legally speaking, how the hell is this legal and constitutional? Also, is it basically set in stone now, or would a future court possibly choose to change prevailing legal opinion on this issue?

The reason why I ask is because this is a very severe punishment imposed upon people for life. It would seem to me that if someone posed such a serious threat to the community that you would need to publicly brand a scarlet letter on their chest and closely monitor their every movement, then they should be in prison or some kind of "house arrest" until society deems these safeguards to be unnecessary. Once someone is out of jail, I always figured they have served their punishment and should go on with their lives. (Less some voting restrictions here and there for felons, but I really dont get that either for similar reasons)
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Old 02-28-2007, 01:15 PM   #2
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Sex offenders have a higher repeat offender percentage than other ex-cons. I'm with ya, throw em in the can forever and let Bubba and Jamal play with them till they explode.
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Old 02-28-2007, 01:17 PM   #3
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Even if the registries were not maintained by the government, they would be maintained by private sources. In this day and age, there is no forgive and forget because computers never forget.
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Old 02-28-2007, 01:17 PM   #4
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Sex offenders have a higher repeat offender percentage than other ex-cons. I'm with ya, throw em in the can forever and let Bubba and Jamal play with them till they explode.
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Old 02-28-2007, 01:18 PM   #5
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Sex offenses have more long-term psychological effects than most other crimes. They're a societal hot-button and we want to be made aware. Besides, all other felons have records that stay with them as well. I don't think it's an issue.
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Old 02-28-2007, 01:19 PM   #6
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Sex offenders have a higher repeat offender percentage than other ex-cons. I'm with ya, throw em in the can forever and let Bubba and Jamal play with them till they explode.
I'm actually cool with that too. If we believe they will be repeat offenders, then at least a life sentence would be intellectually consistent with other laws. Or perhaps we could have a punitive sentence for punishment, followed by an indefinite time in a mental institution (I think we can safely classify a compulsion to molest kids as "crazy"), until some huge board of psychiatric uber-experts certify that the guy is really cured. If that means people serving 10 years for a sex crime followed by 20 years in an institution until they can convince the doctors that they are normal, so be it.

This practice of letting them out but giving everyone their address and picture so that they can be pariahs and possible targets for violence makes no sense to me at all.
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Old 02-28-2007, 01:33 PM   #7
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I personally think the registries should be illegal, unless they're somehow part of the formal sentence. If a judge says, "Your sentence is two years, plus another two years of having your name on a list", then I guess it's legal. It shouldn't be tacked on at an administrative level, though, because it's an additional punishment.
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Old 02-28-2007, 01:37 PM   #8
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I gotta say.. I'm completely on alnorth's side of this

The argument that other crimes don't have the saem recitivism rate doesn't/shouldn't matter under the Constitution
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Old 02-28-2007, 01:49 PM   #9
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I believe there was an article in USA Today about some states revisiting this issue. They used two examples to show how out of hand this can get. The first was that in some states public urination falls under the sex crime umbrella and would require people to register. In another case, in Arkansas, a mom let her 15 or 16 year old pregnant daughter's boyfriend (age 17) sleep over and the mom was charged with a sex offense and had to register as an offender.
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Old 02-28-2007, 01:49 PM   #10
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Having three kids...I think these registries are great....

Now, on the other hand, a 17 year old guy gets caught donking his 16 year old girlfriend....
Come on.... get a clue guys...
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Old 02-28-2007, 01:49 PM   #11
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Sex offenders have a higher repeat offender percentage than other ex-cons. I'm with ya, throw em in the can forever and let Bubba and Jamal play with them till they explode.
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Old 02-28-2007, 02:30 PM   #12
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i mind the registration system ...... but i think they need to revisit what should apply.


public urination??
public indecency??
17 yr old having consensual sex with a 16 yr old??


registration should only be for specific stuff. I also think they should be apply to be remove from list after a certain period of time. Maybe they can ... dunno.
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Old 02-28-2007, 02:40 PM   #14
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Just came across this

Ohio wants special car plates for sex offenders
Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:23pm ET

CINCINNATI (Reuters) - Lawmakers in Ohio said on Wednesday they want to force convicted sex offenders to use a fluorescent-green license plate on their cars so they can be easily identified.

A Republican and a Democrat in the state legislature have joined forces to propose the law, which echoes measures in several U.S. states that require convicted drunken drivers to use a yellow, pink or red plate on their cars.

"The fluorescent-green license plate will make the most egregious sex offenders easily identifiable," state Democratic Rep. Michael DeBose said in a statement.

Police said the green plates would allow them to track sex offenders, who are already required to register with the local sheriff's office and are prohibited from living within 1,000 feet of a school.

http://today.reuters.com/news/articl...src=rss&rpc=22
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Old 02-28-2007, 02:45 PM   #15
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Sex offenders have a higher repeat offender percentage than other ex-cons. I'm with ya, throw em in the can forever and let Bubba and Jamal play with them till they explode.
The system is set up so when you get out of jail you have a series of classes and such that are very expensive. My friend just served 5 years and then had a ton of red tape. Cons have a hard time finding work too which compounds the problem. Missouri has very tough restrictions on what you can't do-like drinking, drugs, must attend probation meetings, hunting, going to a casino or strip club. It makes it very easy for them to slip up and go back to jail. They have one of the highest return rates in the country-something like 65% return within a year-either finish their sentence or commit new crimes.

Sex Offenders have all of the above restrictions plus more-they have to register, plus other restrictions designed to keep them away from kids. Fact is they are the biggest repeat offenders-you can't cure their disease and it is just a matter of time before they rape or kill a kid again. The system just does not work for them-plan and simple. A large % flee and then start doing what got them in prison to start with.

Castration seems to be the only true answer.
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