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Old 05-18-2015, 11:57 PM  
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*** Official Cincinnati Reds @ Kansas City Royals Game Thread (5/19) ***





Final 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E
CIN (18-21) 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 0
KC (25-14) 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 X 3 9 0




Loss, (3-4) Johnny Cueto 7IP 3R 3ER 1BB 4K
J.J. Hoover 1IP 0R 0ER 0BB 0K

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Win, (3-3) Yordano Ventura 7IP 0R 0ER 0BB 6K
Hold, (6) Kelvin Herrera 1IP 0R 0ER 1BB 1K
Save, (7) Wade Davis 1IP 0R 0ER 0BB 2K

Home Runs

none

AL Central

Final: MIN 8, PIT 5
Final: MIL 8, DET 1
Final: CLE 3, CWS 1

Starting Lineups

CIN

1. Zack Cozart, SS
2. Brayan Pena, C
3. Joey Votto, 1B
4. Todd Frazier, 3B
5. Marlon Byrd, LF
6. Brandon Phillips, 2B
7. Jay Bruce, RF
8. Devin Mesoraco, DH
9. Billy Hamilton, CF

KC

1. Alcides Escobar, SS
2. Mike Moustakas, 3B
3. Lorenzo Cain, CF
4. Eric Hosmer, 1B
5. Kendrys Morales, DH
6. Alex Gordon, LF
7. Salvador Perez, C
8. Omar Infante, 2B
9. Paulo Orlando, RF

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Old 05-18-2015, 11:57 PM   #2
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I'll update the OP with the usual bells and whistles tomorrow, right now I gotta sleep.
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Old 05-19-2015, 12:28 AM   #3
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Old 05-19-2015, 07:14 AM   #5
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So, if one were so inclined, what would it take to get Cueto?
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Old 05-19-2015, 07:16 AM   #6
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Old 05-19-2015, 07:54 AM   #7
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Old 05-19-2015, 08:00 AM   #8
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So, if one were so inclined, what would it take to get Cueto?

A decent amount, probably less than Samardzija, though. The a's got 1.5 years of control there.

It would hurt the farm system... But might be enough to make this team a really dangerous postseason team.
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Old 05-19-2015, 08:21 AM   #9
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Old 05-19-2015, 08:49 AM   #10
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A decent amount, probably less than Samardzija, though. The a's got 1.5 years of control there.

It would hurt the farm system... But might be enough to make this team a really dangerous postseason team.
Cinci Inquiror talking about a KC trade here:

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/reds...ueto/27527837/


I'd dangle Danny Duffy out there. He's a proven starter, with a few warts but big upside. Cheap and controlled. If you're getting a MLB starter in return for Cueto you can't do a whole lot better than Duffy. His stuff would really play up in the Junior League too, so maybe he challenges more hitters and gets control back.


Something like Duffy + Almonte would be fair value, possibly.
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Old 05-19-2015, 09:30 AM   #11
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Cinci Inquiror talking about a KC trade here:

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/reds...ueto/27527837/


I'd dangle Danny Duffy out there. He's a proven starter, with a few warts but big upside. Cheap and controlled. If you're getting a MLB starter in return for Cueto you can't do a whole lot better than Duffy. His stuff would really play up in the Junior League too, so maybe he challenges more hitters and gets control back.


Something like Duffy + Almonte would be fair value, possibly.
I think I'd be all over that at this point.

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Old 05-19-2015, 09:36 AM   #12
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http://www.cincinnati.com/story/reds...ueto/27527837/


I'd dangle Danny Duffy out there. He's a proven starter, with a few warts but big upside. Cheap and controlled. If you're getting a MLB starter in return for Cueto you can't do a whole lot better than Duffy. His stuff would really play up in the Junior League too, so maybe he challenges more hitters and gets control back.


Something like Duffy + Almonte would be fair value, possibly.
It's possible Cincinnati wants someone younger/with more control. Duffy is arb eligible next season, so that might be a hold-up for them.

Almonte is certainly a piece that's probably in consideration. I like him a lot because of the FB/CH combo, but he's probably the top minor league pitching trade chip at this point.

Something like Almonte + Finnegan + Dozier/Cuthbert might be more appealing because of the additional years of control.

That seems like it might be the upper limit of what Moore is willing to move via trade. I can't see him moving Zimmer or Manaea or Mondesi.
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Old 05-19-2015, 10:00 AM   #14
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Not sure I agree. The Reds are a .500 team with the same payroll (115) as us this year. They're not out of contention by any stretch and shouldn't be that scared of StL or Cubs or Pitt. They'd need an MLB starter to plug the Cueto absense. Theyd need one of our staters whoever it would be + prospect. Plus salary relief potentially.


They have a shitload committed next year too: 82m and that's pre-arb (guys like Chapman, Cosart etc). Votto in his prime with Bruce, Phillips Frazier all signed. They'd need a starter
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I'd trade the farm for Cueto ...

Cueto is a legit #1 ... in Royals speak ... he's an ace to James Shields #2.

Cueto on the Royals would make the Royals a WS frontrunner in the AL easy. It's currently our biggest weakness.

and it would set us up for a :

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