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Old 04-23-2007, 08:40 AM  
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Gasoline at $4 Coming to a Pump Near You, Unfazed by Rising Tab

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=afOlUzd30YOo

Pretty alarmist, IMO, but possible.

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Old 05-14-2007, 07:55 AM   #226
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Old 05-14-2007, 08:13 AM   #227
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We passed Peak light sweet crude a year ago. That means we have used more of it than what is left in the ground. The Saudi's are not increasing their output for one simple reason - they can't.

This explains everything that is happening right now. The news media is talking about how the US is having refining problems - that is true and untrue at the same time. If there was an ample supply of light sweet oil, there would not be a refining issue.

The US refiners are however trying to add equipment like mad to be able to refine heavy and sour grades of oil. The equipment is very expensive and cannot produce like a refinery running on LS feedstock.

Sour oil is high in sulfur and produces sulfuric acid during production it destroys equipment the faster you run the process. The harder you run these refineries the more fires and accidents you are going to have.
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Old 05-14-2007, 11:05 AM   #228
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Dumb, panicky animal syndrome?

It's virtually impossible to create a Chernobyl-like disaster in the United States, even intentionally. Our plants are vastly superior with regards to design and engineering.
how 'bout 3 mile island?

and who you callin' dumb and panicky anyway?

well, one out of 2 ain't bad...
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Old 05-14-2007, 11:12 AM   #229
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The problem with Nuke energy is ROI.

Forget waste, 3 mile island, etc., the fact of the matter is that it takes a nuke plant 15/20 years or so to pay off the initial investment. By then it is ready for decommission.
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Old 05-14-2007, 03:34 PM   #230
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how 'bout 3 mile island?

and who you callin' dumb and panicky anyway?

well, one out of 2 ain't bad...
3 Mile Island was nothing compared to Chernobyl.
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Old 05-14-2007, 05:48 PM   #231
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Probably already said, however......DO NOT buy gasoline tomorrow....They have been saying on all the radio stations to go with the emails you all got. People are pissed and time to act!
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Old 05-14-2007, 05:51 PM   #232
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Probably already said, however......DO NOT buy gasoline tomorrow....They have been saying on all the radio stations to go with the emails you all got. People are pissed and time to act!
What is that going to accomplish?
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Old 05-14-2007, 05:55 PM   #233
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What is that going to accomplish?
If all people in all the states protest and not buy that speaks volume! Then write to your govenor and senate and ask them "What are you going to do about this"? Asking them prior to their new election...That speaks loud!
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Old 05-14-2007, 05:56 PM   #234
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If all people in all the states protest and not buy that speaks volume! Then write to your govenor and senate and ask them "What are you going to do about this"? Asking them prior to their new election...That speaks loud!
Are all you people actually going to skip a fill-up, or just delay it by a few days?

And, what do you expect/want the government to do?
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Old 05-14-2007, 06:05 PM   #235
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Are all you people actually going to skip a fill-up, or just delay it by a few days?

And, what do you expect/want the government to do?
Just one day is all....You email your Govenor,
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Old 05-14-2007, 06:06 PM   #236
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Are all you people actually going to skip a fill-up, or just delay it by a few days?

And, what do you expect/want the government to do?
You can't be seriously trying to walk her through this are you? Don't you have better things to do, like an auto-vasectomy with a spork?
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Old 05-14-2007, 06:09 PM   #237
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You can't be seriously trying to walk her through this are you? Don't you have better things to do, like an auto-vasectomy with a spork?
This is why I wonder why I come back here.
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Old 05-14-2007, 06:14 PM   #238
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This is why I wonder why I come back here.
There are 230+ posts in this thread. If you would have read them you would have seen this very thing has been hashed and rehashed ad nauseam in this very thread.

It's been shown time and time again that the "gas out" won't work and it's been shown time and time again why govt. controls don't work.
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Just one day is all....You email your Govenor,
So, you are going to delay filling up by one day, not skip an entire fill-up? In other words, you aren't going to reduce your demand at all?

Sorry, but that does absolutely nothing.

What am I supposed to email my governor about?
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Old 05-14-2007, 06:16 PM   #240
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There are 230+ posts in this thread. If you would have read them you would have seen this very thing has been hashed and rehashed ad nauseam in this very thread.

It's been shown time and time again that the "gas out" won't work and it's been shown time and time again why govt. controls don't work.
Eh, some of us prefer the cliff notes. I know I don't go all the way back and read all of long threads.
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