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Old 04-23-2007, 09:40 AM  
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Old 04-17-2012, 02:43 PM   #3421
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Sigh. Okay.

We use petroleum to fuel our vehicles because it is the most economically attractive and physically efficient method. Period.
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Old 04-17-2012, 02:46 PM   #3422
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Sigh. Okay.

We use petroleum to fuel our vehicles because it is the most economically attractive and physically efficient method. Period.
Are you kidding?
You're joking, right?
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Old 04-17-2012, 02:52 PM   #3423
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Are you kidding?
You're joking, right?
No. If you have an alternative, please present it.
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Old 04-17-2012, 02:52 PM   #3424
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Sigh. Okay.

We use petroleum to fuel our vehicles because it is the most economically attractive and physically efficient method. Period.
Why is this so ****ing difficult for people to understand?

If any other fuel was even close to being as energy-dense, portable and relatively plentiful, companies that like to make lots of money WOULD BE ALL OVER IT!

Someday, increasing scarcity of oil and technological breakthroughs in other fields will make switching over the economical thing to do...That time has not yet come, despite the constant flow of propagandistic bullshit erupting from politicians seeking ever more power over your life...
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Old 04-17-2012, 02:55 PM   #3425
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No. If you have an alternative, please present it.
Dude, please. Everyone knows that the oil companies bought up all the patents for the alternative fuels and other oil saving science.





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Old 04-17-2012, 03:13 PM   #3426
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Dude, please. Everyone knows that the oil companies bought up all the patents for the alternative fuels and other oil saving science.





Actually, not that far-fetched of an idea.

BP-Dupont takes Gevo to court.
Patent encumbrance of large automotive NiMH batteries.

In terms of alternative fuel sources -- as of right now, none will be as economically efficient as oil.
That is, until we actually invest time and money into perfecting the methods in which we use them. Oil has not always been this efficient , it took years and years and years of work, technology, etc.
The same is and will be true for what we decide to use next.

Solar energy is the most powerful, yet we need to work on ways of capturing and maintaining that energy for longer periods.
Hydrogen is another fantastic alternative and we've seen a number of companies work on improving this technology.
The possibilities with wind might not be the greatest, but it's something we should at least explore.
Natural gas is another alternative that has yet to be explored fully.
More money should be invested into biofuels as well.

We shouldn't rely solely on one energy source -- we should explore every option and utilize every option possible to maintain cost efficiency.

The point is that complaining about gas prices being too high, yet doing absolutely nothing to explore other options is senseless.
At what point do we reach a cost that is simply too much? At what point do we say that gasoline is no longer affordable? At what point do we say that oil simpy cannot reach global demand due to the limited amount left?

We should be proactive rather than reactive.
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Old 04-17-2012, 03:19 PM   #3427
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In terms of alternative fuel sources -- as of right now, none will be as economically efficient as oil.
Heh.
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Old 04-17-2012, 03:36 PM   #3428
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I will agree with you about right now, but why are we not doing more to explore other options?

Electric cars and hydrogen cars are fantastic alternatives, but they need to have money invested into the technology to improve the overall technology and to make it more cost efficient.

Are you for exploring other fuel sources or are you wanting to focus solely on oil?
We are exploring other options. There will probably come a tipping point when fueling our vehicles with petroleum products becomes cost prohibitive enough to force a shift to some other technology, but we aren't any where near that yet. Which is what I wrote you earlier.
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Old 04-17-2012, 03:44 PM   #3429
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Old 04-17-2012, 04:54 PM   #3431
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I filled up yesterday at $4.09/gal. F*** expensive gas prices!

Having just moved to San Diego, I was amazed at some of the huge price differences in gas stations. Its not uncommon to see a 10, 15, or 20 cent per gallon difference, even if you go right across the street. I had to drive a few miles out of my way just to avoid some of the grossly overpriced stations.
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Old 04-17-2012, 07:19 PM   #3432
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I filled up yesterday at $4.09/gal. F*** expensive gas prices!

Having just moved to San Diego, I was amazed at some of the huge price differences in gas stations. Its not uncommon to see a 10, 15, or 20 cent per gallon difference, even if you go right across the street. I had to drive a few miles out of my way just to avoid some of the grossly overpriced stations.
drive across the border and see how much gas is in Mexico. I bet it's lots cheaper.
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Old 04-17-2012, 07:29 PM   #3433
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drive across the border and see how much gas is in Mexico. I bet it's lots cheaper.
Nah. I don't need shitty quality gasoline. Plus, I prefer not to get kidnapped.
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Old 05-04-2012, 10:35 AM   #3434
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Crude in free-fall today. Down $4.28/barrel right now (4.17%) at $98.26.

Gasoline at $3.79, down $0.12 from last month.
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Old 05-04-2012, 10:44 AM   #3435
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drive across the border and see how much gas is in Mexico. I bet it's lots cheaper.
You really want to try burning that dog water in your rig?
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