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Old 05-28-2007, 10:20 PM  
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Sheehan: Peaceniks Put Personal Egos Above Peace

Duh.... Ya think?

Well, at least she woke up.....and packed up her irrelevant pup tent, and is going home.


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Anti-war mom Cindy Sheehan gives up her protest


CNN) -- Cindy Sheehan, the California mother who became an anti-war leader after her son was killed in Iraq, declared Monday she was walking away from the peace movement.

She said her son died "for nothing."

Sheehan achieved national attention when she camped outside President Bush's home in Crawford, Texas, throughout August 2005 to demand a meeting with the president over her son's death.

While Bush ignored her, the vigil made her one of the most prominent figures among opponents of the war.

But in a Web diary posted to the liberal online community Daily Kos on Monday, Sheehan said she was exhausted by the personal, financial and emotional toll of the past two years.

She wrote that she is disillusioned by the failure of Democratic politicians to bring the unpopular war to an end and tired of a peace movement she said "often puts personal egos above peace and human life."

Casey Sheehan, a 24-year-old Army specialist, was killed in an April 2004 battle in Baghdad. His death prompted his mother to found Gold Star Families for Peace.

But in Monday's 1,200-word letter, titled, "Good Riddance Attention Whore," Sheehan announced that her son "did indeed die for nothing."
"I have tried every since he died to make his sacrifice meaningful," she wrote. "Casey died for a country which cares more about who will be the next American Idol than how many people will be killed in the next few months while Democrats and Republicans play politics with human lives.

"It is so painful to me to know that I bought into this system for so many years, and Casey paid the price for that allegiance. I failed my boy and that hurts the most."

Cindy Sheehan's sister, DeDe Miller, told CNN that the group would continue working for humanitarian causes, but drop its involvement in the anti-war movement. As for her sister's letter, Miller said, "She cried for quite a bit after writing it."

Sheehan warned that the United States was becoming "a fascist corporate wasteland," and that onetime allies among Bush's Democratic opposition turned on her when she began trying to hold them accountable for bringing the 4-year-old war to a close.

In the meantime, she said her antiwar activism had cost her her marriage, that she had put the survivor's benefits paid for her son's death and all her speaking and book fees into the cause and that she now owed extensive medical bills.

"I am going to take whatever I have left and go home," she wrote. "I am going to go home and be a mother to my surviving children and try to regain some of what I have lost.

"I will try to maintain and nurture some very positive relationships that I have found in the journey that I was forced into when Casey died and try to repair some of the ones that have fallen apart since I began this single-minded crusade to try and change a paradigm that is now, I am afraid, carved in immovable, unbendable and rigidly mendacious marble."
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Old 05-28-2007, 10:36 PM   #2
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"I'm pretty tired. I think I'll go home now."


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Old 05-28-2007, 10:56 PM   #3
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Not to insult anyone here, but this story is best suited for the back page of the lawn and garden section of the paper.

The lady, and I use the term very losely, is a few bricks shy of a full load, like 75% too few.
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Old 05-28-2007, 11:04 PM   #4
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Not to insult anyone here, but this story is best suited for the back page of the lawn and garden section of the paper.

The lady, and I use the term very losely, is a few bricks shy of a full load, like 75% too few.
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Old 05-28-2007, 11:13 PM   #5
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The antiwar movement didn't gain traction until Sheehan came along. For that, those of us against the war can be grateful.

But I don't know what the purpose of this thread is?

To laugh at antiwar protesters, or to laugh at Sheehan.

Prowar supporters are often promoting war because of their own personal interests, too. And even if Sheehan's political handlers were egocentric, Sheehan herself can still believe that taking their course of action, demented as it may be, is the best chance for her to achieve her goals.

Like the war or not, Sheehan grew a son who fought and died for our country. We should all be thankful to her, and should refuse from mocking her -- if anybody's allowed to speak their mind, it should be the mothers who borne and raise our soldiers.

It gets lost in the political shuffle, but Sheehan's crusade wasn't mere politics to begin with. What was she asking for to begin with? Accountability, and the end of a war and an administration that she feels abandoned it.

It was humanism, and humanity, in both its best forms and its worst. It was an exhaustion in hope for a country, one that could only have originated from a passionate belief in it.

I wish Sheehan the best, and want to assure her that, even though this war in Iraq was folly, that her son died for something. An ideal. Our never-ending commitment to good faith. And, let's hope, a stable Iraq someday.
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Old 05-28-2007, 11:16 PM   #6
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The antiwar movement didn't gain traction until Sheehan came along. For that, those of us against the war can be grateful.

But I don't know what the purpose of this thread is?

To laugh at antiwar protesters, or to laugh at Sheehan.

Prowar supporters are often promoting war because of their own personal interests, too. And even if Sheehan's political handlers were egocentric, that doesn't mean Sheehan herself can't still believe that taking their course of action, demented as it may be, is the best chance for her to achieve her goals.

Like the war or not, Sheehan grew a son who fought and died for our country. We should all be thankful to her, and should refuse from mocking her -- if anybody's allowed to speak their mind, it should be the mothers who borne and raise our soldiers.

It gets lost in the political shuffle, but Sheehan's crusade wasn't mere politics to begin with. What was she asking for to begin with? Accountability, and the end of a war and an administration that she feels abandoned it.

It was humanism, and humanity, in both its best forms and its worst. It was an exhaustion in hope for a country, one that could only have originated in a passionate belief in it.

I wish Sheehan the best, and want to assure her that, even though this war in Iraq was folly, that her son died for something. An ideal. Our never-ending commitment to good faith. And, let's hope, a stable Iraq someday.
This thread was created for one purpose:

A Conservative Hawk circle jerk. I'm sure that many of the same jerkoffs in here laughing at Sheehan would be the first to accuse someone of not carrying their load vis a vis military service if they were criticizing the war and/or military.

It's not a small bit of irony.
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Old 05-28-2007, 11:18 PM   #7
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Sheehan said she was exhausted by the personal, financial and emotional toll of the past two years.
My guess is that the financial impact is the real reason, you cannot go on forever unless you are fatcat.
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Old 05-28-2007, 11:19 PM   #8
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This thread was created for one purpose:

A Conservative Hawk circle jerk. I'm sure that many of the same jerkoffs in here laughing at Sheehan would be the first to accuse someone of not carrying their load vis a vis military service if they were criticizing the war and/or military.

It's not a small bit of irony.
Actually it is that but more that Rob likes to shit stir as much as anyone else.
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Old 05-28-2007, 11:23 PM   #9
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The antiwar movement didn't gain traction until Sheehan came along. For that, those of us against the war can be grateful.

But I don't know what the purpose of this thread is?

To laugh at antiwar protesters, or to laugh at Sheehan.
Laughing at Sheehan herself works for me, but the better joke is that this impudent ball of fluff, tears and fury that the Democrats paraded shamelessly has decided to turn her back on the party that embraced her.

Rightly so. The party of the center left will keep this war going despite their rhetoric. They're not crazy.

Sheehan, on the other hand, is crazy and always has been.
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Old 05-28-2007, 11:27 PM   #10
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Laughing at Sheehan herself works for me, but the better joke is that this impudent ball of fluff, tears and fury that the Democrats paraded shamelessly has decided to turn her back on the party that embraced her.

Rightly so. The party of the center left will keep this war going despite their rhetoric. They're not crazy.

Sheehan, on the other hand, is crazy and always has been.
This action reflects on the frustrations that the antiwar movement has with the DNP.

If you think it's crazy to oppose this war, then that reflects on you.
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Old 05-28-2007, 11:29 PM   #11
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Sheehan, on the other hand, is crazy and always has been.
If you had a child that served in an unneccessary and ridiculous war and got split in half by a pipe bomb filled with nails, semtex and human shit, I'm sure that you would still toe the military line or only sympathize with those who do.
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Old 05-28-2007, 11:31 PM   #12
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Laughing at Sheehan herself works for me, but the better joke is that this impudent ball of fluff, tears and fury that the Democrats paraded shamelessly has decided to turn her back on the party that embraced her.

Rightly so. The party of the center left will keep this war going despite their rhetoric. They're not crazy.

Sheehan, on the other hand, is crazy and always has been.
Not to be confrontational but why would that make them not crazy?
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Old 05-29-2007, 12:07 AM   #13
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What great and moral insight................

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Laughing at Sheehan herself works for me, but the better joke is that this impudent ball of fluff, tears and fury that the Democrats paraded shamelessly has decided to turn her back on the party that embraced her.

Rightly so. The party of the center left will keep this war going despite their rhetoric. They're not crazy.

Sheehan, on the other hand, is crazy and always has been.
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Old 05-29-2007, 12:11 AM   #14
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If you had a child that served in an unneccessary and ridiculous war and got split in half by a pipe bomb filled with nails, semtex and human shit, I'm sure that you would still toe the military line or only sympathize with those who do.
I would have honored my son yesterday and I would continue to honor him every year after on Memorial Day. I would take my younger relatives and my friends' kids to my son's grave and I would tell them about his life and his death. I'd also tell them about my uncles and my father who joined up during the Second War. (My father lied about his age and enrolled when he was 16. Birth certificates weren't very important in 1944.)

I'd tell them about my stepfather, who joined our family after my father died at the age of 42. My stepfather was a Marine in Korea during that action. He still wakes up sometimes during the night believing that he's being attacked, although the frequency of his sleepi-related problems have lessened over the decades.

My father didn't kill anyone; he was stationed at the Pentagon during his war. My stepfather has bayonet wounds to his legs, and he had to kill the men who inflicted those wounds. He won't discuss his service with me, but he has taken my son aside to share his experiences with him.

Hamas, I understand that you think that this a ridiculous war. I'm convinced that this war is anything but ridicuous.

If my son decided to fight, and if he died, I'd honor him, his comrades in arms, his ideas, his commanders and his memory.

Hamas, my son is already considering whether he owes this kind of commitment to the U.S. He just turned 12 and he's my only son.

I think you're underestimating him. To a lesser extent, I think you're underestimating my family and our country.
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Old 05-29-2007, 12:25 AM   #15
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I would have honored my son yesterday and I would continue to honor him every year after on Memorial Day. I would take my younger relatives and my friends' kids to my son's grave and I would tell them about his life and his death. I'd also tell them about my uncles and my father who joined up during the Second War. (My father lied about his age and enrolled when he was 16. Birth certificates weren't very important in 1944.)

I'd tell them about my stepfather, who joined our family after my father died at the age of 42. My stepfather was a Marine in Korea during that action. He still wakes up sometimes during the night believing that he's being attacked, although the frequency of his sleepi-related problems have lessened over the decades.

My father didn't kill anyone; he was stationed at the Pentagon during his war. My stepfather has bayonet wounds to his legs, and he had to kill the men who inflicted those wounds. He won't discuss his service with me, but he has taken my son aside to share his experiences with him.

Hamas, I understand that you think that this a ridiculous war. I'm convinced that this war is anything but ridicuous.

If my son decided to fight, and if he died, I'd honor him, his comrades in arms, his ideas, his commanders and his memory.

Hamas, my son is already considering whether he owes this kind of commitment to the U.S. He just turned 12 and he's my only son.

I think you're underestimating him. To a lesser extent, I think you're underestimating my family and our country.
Did I miss it, where did Hamas reference you or your family. Perhaps you took his post about Sheehan too personally.

Seems like he was being rhetorical.
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