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Old 07-06-2007, 10:08 AM  
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Second Michael Vick Doggy Raid Underway

Looks like they are going for the kill. Never heard of a rape stand before. Sounds like something Vick might own.

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Updated: July 6, 2007, 10:38 AM ET

SURRY, Va. -- A dozen cars and a U-Haul truck were parked Friday on property owned by Falcons quarterback Michael Vick in what appeared to be a second federal raid of the site that has been the focus of a dogfighting probe.


A U.S. Department of Agriculture agent stationed at the gate had no comment, ESPN's Kelly Naqi reported.

Television station WVEC in Hampton Roads, Va., is reporting that an investigator told it that forensics crews are searching only for dog carcasses. It also reported that the Surry County Sheriff's Office is involved in the search.

WVEC is reporting crews began digging early Friday in an area behind Vick's Moonlight Road house near two black sheds, where investigators say they previously found evidence of dogfighting.

The house is in the process of being sold by Vick, according to Naqi.

The USDA is the federal agency with oversight over treatment of domestic animals and investigates dog fighting allegations.

On June 7, federal law enforcement officials descended on a home owned by Vick armed with a search warrant that suggests they're taking over an investigation into the Falcons quarterback's possible involvement in dogfighting.

More than a dozen vehicles went to the home early that day and investigators searched inside before turning their attention to the area where officials found dozens of dogs in late April and evidence that suggested the home was involved in a dogfighting operation.

Surry County officials had secured a search warrant in late May based on an informant's information to look for as many as 30 dog carcasses buried on the property. The warrant never was executed because Commonwealth's Attorney Gerald G. Poindexter said he had issues with the way it was worded.

The results of that search have remained sealed.

At the time, Poindexter expressed surprise at why the federal government was involved.

"What is foreign to me is the federal government getting into a dogfighting case," Poindexter said. "I know it's been done, but what's driving this? Is it this boy's celebrity? Would they have done this if it wasn't Michael Vick?"

A day later, Poindexter said: "They launched a separate, independent federal investigation," Poindexter said of the government, which has had a representative involved in the local probe all along.

"We are just pursuing parallel investigations."

During an April 25 drug raid on the home Vick owns in the county, authorities seized 66 dogs, including 55 pit bulls, and equipment that suggested someone at the property was involved in a dogfighting operation.

A search warrant affidavit said some of the dogs were in individual kennels and about 30 were tethered with "heavy logging-type chains" buried in the ground. The chains allowed the dogs to get close to each other, but not to have contact, one of myriad findings on the property that suggested a dogfighting operation.

Others included a rape stand, used to hold non-receptive dogs in place for mating; an electric treadmill modified to be used by dogs; a "pry bar" used to open the clamped-down mouths of dogs; and a bloodied piece of carpeting the authorities believe was used in dog fights. Carpeting gives dogs traction in a plywood fighting pit.

Vick has claimed he rarely visits the home and was unaware it could be involved in a criminal enterprise. He also has blamed family members for taking advantage of his generosity. Vick's cousin, Davon Boddie, was living at the home at the time of the raids.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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Old 07-06-2007, 10:10 AM   #2
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Old 07-06-2007, 10:12 AM   #3
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breeding stands are actually for the dogs own protection.
they keep started dogs from hurting one another.
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Old 07-06-2007, 10:14 AM   #4
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Sure doesn't sound like the feds have much evidence. I can't fathom why they think someone was running a dog fighting operation.



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Old 07-06-2007, 10:16 AM   #5
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And yet Vick is STILL not suspended.

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Old 07-06-2007, 10:17 AM   #6
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bloody carpet is enough to get atleast an intent charge,then add up all the mills,catmills,jennys,parting sticks ect. someone is gonna get a suspension.

If not the new commish is a fraud.
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Old 07-06-2007, 10:32 AM   #7
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What is foreign to me is the federal government getting into a dogfighting case," Poindexter said. "I know it's been done, but what's driving this? Is it this boy's celebrity? Would they have done this if it wasn't Michael Vick
Hmmm. I wonder if Poindexter is channeling Imus for this interview. Watch it be this statement that allows Vick to get off scotch free.
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Old 07-06-2007, 10:46 AM   #8
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Old 07-06-2007, 10:56 AM   #9
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The evidence listed is pretty weak.

Aren't a lot of dogs kept leashed outside on chains?

I'm not sure how a breeding stand is proof of dog fighting. Dog procreation, maybe.

An electric treadmill? You can do a google search and see lots of people use electric treadmills to exercise their dogs.

A "pry-bar". Do they mean a crow bar, or similar piece of metal equipment found in every garage in America.

A bloody carpet? Well, with the breeding stand one could argue the blood came from birthing, etc.
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Old 07-06-2007, 11:01 AM   #10
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The evidence listed is pretty weak.

Aren't a lot of dogs kept leashed outside on chains?

I'm not sure how a breeding stand is proof of dog fighting. Dog procreation, maybe.

An electric treadmill? You can do a google search and see lots of people use electric treadmills to exercise their dogs.

A "pry-bar". Do they mean a crow bar, or similar piece of metal equipment found in every garage in America.

A bloody carpet? Well, with the breeding stand one could argue the blood came from birthing, etc.
its enough evidence for an intent conviction.

from what i understand the carpet came from the box.
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Old 07-06-2007, 11:12 AM   #11
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Old 07-06-2007, 11:23 AM   #12
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Looks like the local law was not going to press the case too hard, so the feds have stepped in. If they find a bunch of dead dogs on the property, it is going to be all over.
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Old 07-06-2007, 11:24 AM   #13
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The evidence listed is pretty weak.

Aren't a lot of dogs kept leashed outside on chains?

I'm not sure how a breeding stand is proof of dog fighting. Dog procreation, maybe.

An electric treadmill? You can do a google search and see lots of people use electric treadmills to exercise their dogs.

A "pry-bar". Do they mean a crow bar, or similar piece of metal equipment found in every garage in America.

A bloody carpet? Well, with the breeding stand one could argue the blood came from birthing, etc.
Yeah, it's not like they found bloody gloves or something....
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Old 07-06-2007, 11:26 AM   #14
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Looks like the local law was not going to press the case too hard, so the feds have stepped in. If they find a bunch of dead dogs on the property, it is going to be all over.
thats the part of the story that really sounded like bullshit. noones ever been convicted over a buried dog corpse.
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Old 07-06-2007, 11:30 AM   #15
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If they find a bunch of dead dogs on the property, it is going to be all over.
Unless his defense is that he was part owner of a Chinese take out restaurant.
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