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Old 08-01-2007, 11:43 PM  
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Ronald Reagan on Socialized medicine.

This speech from 1961 deserves it's own thread. Reagan was not only a great leader of men but he was a visionary. Listen to this speech it's fantastic.


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Old 08-02-2007, 12:14 AM   #2
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I miss that man. Great find, ChiefaRoo.
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Old 08-02-2007, 12:23 AM   #3
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I miss that man. Great find, ChiefaRoo.
ChiefaRoo didn't "find" anything. It's being widely distributed by the conservative media outlets.
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Old 08-02-2007, 12:25 AM   #4
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The most comical part is the argument that the government is going to force you (a doctor) to live and work in xyz location.

Bwaahhaaah!

I guess the politics of fear started for the GOP a long time ago.
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Old 08-02-2007, 12:26 AM   #5
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ChiefaRoo didn't "find" anything. It's being widely distributed by the conservative media outlets.
Great redistribution, ChiefaRoo.
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Old 08-02-2007, 12:31 AM   #6
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The most comical part is the argument that the government is going to force you (a doctor) to live and work in xyz location.

Bwaahhaaah!

I guess the politics of fear started for the GOP a long time ago.
I do fear creeping Socialism. Additionally, I fear that it's already got a stranglehold on us, and that we'll never be able to get back to where we were.

Fear is a good thing in some cases jAZ. It kicks us into "fight or flight" mode.

I wish you a pleasant flight on European Socialism Airways.
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Old 08-02-2007, 12:47 AM   #7
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Great redistribution, ChiefaRoo.
Thanks CB. Jaz can eat all the government cheese he wants but I'm not going there and I doubt the American people will either.
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Old 08-02-2007, 12:52 AM   #8
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I do fear creeping Socialism. Additionally, I fear that it's already got a stranglehold on us, and that we'll never be able to get back to where we were.

Fear is a good thing in some cases jAZ. It kicks us into "fight or flight" mode.

I wish you a pleasant flight on European Socialism Airways.
The other great part was his stat that 20% of our economy was made up of "government run companies" (/paraphrase)...



Great time capsule of that post-communism fear mongering. It really puts in context how far really, really far away from socialism we are today.
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Old 08-02-2007, 12:55 AM   #9
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Thanks CB. Jaz can eat all the government cheese he wants but I'm not going there and I doubt the American people will either.
It really is a great sound clip though... It puts into context how out of touch the people are who claim we are far more "liberal" today than we've ever been.

It's an anti-communism time capsule that shows how truely stuck in the 60's many of the current fear-the-liberal-socialists-democrats fear-mongering really is.
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Old 08-02-2007, 01:09 AM   #10
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It really is a great sound clip though... It puts into context how out of touch the people are who claim we are far more "liberal" today than we've ever been.

It's an anti-communism time capsule that shows how truely stuck in the 60's many of the current fear-the-liberal-socialists-democrats fear-mongering really is.
Jiz, you really are a monumental fool of the first order. I've said it before, guys like you don't deserve to be free. You're pathetic.
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Old 08-02-2007, 01:33 AM   #11
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Jiz, you really are a monumental fool of the first order. I've said it before, guys like you don't deserve to be free. You're pathetic.


Gotta love it when a blind radical conservative runs out of things to say. The spitting and hatred pours out of you at that point... huh?

You and rexcjake both do a great job demonstrating the rationality of your position on the issues. Or something.

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Old 08-02-2007, 01:47 AM   #12
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Gotta love it when a blind radical conservative runs out of things to say. The spitting and hatred pours out of you at that point... huh?

You and rexcjake both do a great job demonstrating the rationality of your position on the issues. Or something.


First of all you are not worthy of my hate. I could care less about you or your opinion. What I don't like is how you make snarky little comments about a man (Ronald Reagan) who was a masterful leader whose values and political outlook have been fully vindicated by history. His words from 1961 are more relavant today than anything that is being said by any of the potential candidates for the Presidency now regardless of party.
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It really puts in context how far really, really far away from socialism we are today.
We may be "really, really far away from socialism" from your perspective, but we're really, really too damn near it from mine.
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Old 08-02-2007, 07:59 AM   #14
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We may be "really, really far away from socialism" from your perspective, but we're really, really too damn near it from mine.
We're already half socialized.

Just because the form we have ( like Sweden's) is a welfare-state, transfer-of- wealth does not mean we aren't partially socialized. We have least 5 planks, some say 6, of the Communist (aka socialist) Manifesto right now operating. It's just most can't recognize it under it's many different guises. It's not just an economic system either. It's also a social system.

Whoever would have thought we'd be paying 50% of what we make to the govt. That right there is a real eye-opener.
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Oh! FTR, the Pubs are just as socialistic as the Dems.
Don't forget they have us the graduated income tax making it all possible.
That said, if you look up Carter's record compared to Bush, even Clinton's, they ran smaller govts than "Dubbia The Younger."
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