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Old 08-09-2007, 07:58 PM  
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Watch Dems shoot themselves in foot at gay debate.

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Old 08-09-2007, 07:59 PM   #2
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Already an hour in. Looks bad

Basically gives Kucinich the most friendly forum and pushes Edwards further away from the Nomination.
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Old 08-09-2007, 08:06 PM   #3
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Actually this Mike Gravel bit is pretty entertaining.
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Old 08-10-2007, 07:53 AM   #4
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Old 08-10-2007, 08:57 AM   #5
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I just read an article the other day, that said the endorsements of gay groups actually hurts a candidate more than it helps.
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Old 08-10-2007, 09:08 AM   #6
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From what I've read and heard--the gays aren't a big fan of Edwards anyway. What he did in his debate with Cheney 4 years ago, and the way he acted towards Cheney's daughter turned many many folks away.
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Old 08-10-2007, 11:24 AM   #7
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Obama offers as good as it can possibly get for both worlds -- electability in the form of not being too "in your face" with regard to controversial positions, alongside support of equal rights and other progressive measures.

This poll seems to agree:

Who's your candidate?
37% Barack Obama
24% Dennis Kucinich
19% Hillary Clinton
9% Mike Gravel
7% John Edwards
4% Bill Richardson
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Old 08-10-2007, 11:29 AM   #8
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From what I've read and heard--the gays aren't a big fan of Edwards anyway. What he did in his debate with Cheney 4 years ago, and the way he acted towards Cheney's daughter turned many many folks away.
Not to mention that deal where his wife said he was uncomfortable around teh ghey or whatever.

Doesn't matter, he's running for VP anyway.
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Old 08-10-2007, 04:08 PM   #9
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I just read an article the other day, that said the endorsements of gay groups actually hurts a candidate more than it helps.
Was it from "Focus on someone else's Family" or "Concerned Sandy Vaginas for America"?
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Old 08-10-2007, 04:18 PM   #10
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Was it from "Focus on someone else's Family" or "Concerned Sandy Vaginas for America"?
Drudge linked it from somewhere I think. I don't remember it being from some ideology group. Sounded plausible to me.
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Old 08-10-2007, 04:20 PM   #11
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Drudge linked it from somewhere I think. I don't remember it being from some ideology group. Sounded plausible to me.
Oh, it's certainly possible that it does.

I just liked the sound of "Concerned Sandy Vaginas for America".
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