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Old 08-14-2007, 07:03 PM  
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Hardball: War hawk admits Iraq was about imperialism, not WMD

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Old 08-14-2007, 07:11 PM   #2
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I think that opinion has been held by most people for some time now (and by most people I mean those that the hard line conservatives and Bush defenders lump together as "Liberals", even though that is a crock of shit label), but to hear it said in the open like this in a forum like that is suprising.
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:11 PM   #3
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:16 PM   #4
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:16 PM   #5
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I hate to be annoying in this thread, but lately, when I want to see the videos people post, there's just the Quicktime sign with a question mark. I'm not able to view them. Any suggestions?
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:18 PM   #6
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I hate to be annoying in this thread, but lately, when I want to see the videos people post, there's just the Quicktime sign with a question mark. I'm not able to view them. Any suggestions?
Have you downloaded the latest version of QT player?
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:18 PM   #7
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Have you downloaded the latest version of QT player?
Yeah, I just did thinking that would take care of it. (version 7.2)
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:21 PM   #8
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imperialism is a bit of an odd choice, being we are trying to help them create an independent gov't.
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:25 PM   #9
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imperialism is a bit of an odd choice, being we are trying to help them create an independent gov't.
I know I've posted this link a hundred times, but check it out. Imperialism seems to fit the bill.....

http://www.sonyclassics.com/whywefight/
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:46 PM   #10
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The sad part of that is that imperialism is what those in the ME have been accusing us of from the beginning and is the main reason they want us out so badly. But we have maintain all along that imperialism is the last reason we would be there.
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:47 PM   #11
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I know I've posted this link a hundred times, but check it out. Imperialism seems to fit the bill.....

http://www.sonyclassics.com/whywefight/
I guess it depends on your definition of imperialism, we may be looking to add bases, but running other countries only ends badly. Of course we apply pressure, but others try to do the same against us all the time.
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:48 PM   #12
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I know I've posted this link a hundred times, but check it out. Imperialism seems to fit the bill.....

http://www.sonyclassics.com/whywefight/
I fixed the Quicktime thing.

I've seen that movie. It's a good one. I posted a thread about the military industrial complex afterwards, and some people think it's as credible as UFOs.
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:50 PM   #13
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I guess it depends on your definition of imperialism, we may be looking to add bases, but running other countries only ends badly. Of course we apply pressure, but others try to do the same against us all the time.

So, why do we have so many bases in so many countries around the world?
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Old 08-14-2007, 08:03 PM   #14
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I fixed the Quicktime thing.

I've seen that movie. It's a good one. I posted a thread about the military industrial complex afterwards, and some people think it's as credible as UFOs.
It was a strong movie, to be sure. Made me stop and think.
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Old 08-14-2007, 08:47 PM   #15
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Who is this Mark Finelli and why should I care what he "admits"? Is there really something new in this video or are we just repackaging what we already knew as a previously unidentified form of imperialism?
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