A proposed NFL rules change

**Rain Man** · 09-23-2007, 10:56 PM

You know what I hate?

I hate that any time there's a long kick return, the first reaction of every knowledgeable fan is to look for a penalty flag. I think it taints the excitement of one of the game's most exciting plays.

So I propose this:

On kickoffs and punts, the kicking team gets to add a 12th man. In return, there will be no more penalties called for blocking in the back (above the waist - below the waist will still count) or for holding. All other penalties will be called as normal.

What say ye? Poll forthcoming, unless it gets called back for a block in the back.

KurtCobain · 09-23-2007, 11:06 PM

Solid idea.

Short Leash Hootie · 09-23-2007, 11:07 PM

a block in the back is a penalty because it is dangerous...

KurtCobain · 09-23-2007, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie

a block in the back is a penalty because it is dangerous...

So?

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-23-2007, 11:09 PM

I'm just thinking how easy it would be for teams to score with holding completely legalized.

Probably 25% of all kicks would go to the house if this happened.

Short Leash Hootie · 09-23-2007, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I'm just thinking how easy it would be for teams to score with holding completely legalized.

Probably 25% of all kicks would go to the house if this happened.

That's a bit extreme...

runnercyclist · 09-23-2007, 11:09 PM

NEver happen.

The Zebs need to use better judgement in airing their laundry. It should be blatant and effect the outcome of the play, otherwise don't throw the flag.

L.A. Chieffan · 09-23-2007, 11:12 PM

What do think this is? The Arena League?

mcan · 09-23-2007, 11:43 PM

25% is probably conservative. You put your ten best tacklers on the field and your fastest guy. Fastest guy gets the ball. Everybody else (except one guy and the kicker) gets tackled. Touchdown every time.

Discuss Thrower · 09-24-2007, 12:15 AM

No, I think a system that is something like a "delayed" call is in order. Individual official spots a foul, throws a flag to mark infraction. If it's decided that the foul had no bearing on the outcome of the play in question, flag is pocketed. If it has an effect, penalty stands.

mcan · 09-24-2007, 01:04 AM

How about players just not hit people in the back? Holding happens a lot and subsequently a lot of holding gets called and still a ton more goes unnoticed or unpenalized. But just one good block in the back can completely spring a return man. They're going to call it every time they see it, regardless of where it happens.

StcChief · 09-24-2007, 05:23 AM

Block in the back is dangerous to player.

Braincase · 09-24-2007, 05:48 AM

Why not allow the ball carrier to use a single-shot derringer? Small calibre, of course. Certainly change the definition of "Taking one for the team."

penguinz · 09-24-2007, 06:38 AM

Why not just make it so that if the flag is on a player that has no effect on the play then it is ignored.

cadmonkey · 09-24-2007, 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinz

Why not just make it so that if the flag is on a player that has no effect on the play then it is ignored.

I like that idea. Call the hold if you see it happen, but get together and talk about weather or not it should stand. There are to many calls that happen 30 yards from the play.

View Poll Results: Would you support the following rules change?
Heck, yeah. Let the players play, and let the long returns stand.	9	29.03%
Golly, no. That is sacrilege, and anyway, I enjoy seeing penalties marked off.	6	19.35%
I should hold you down and gie you the business for this poll.	13	41.94%
I can't vote because I live in the District of Columbia.	3	9.68%
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09-23-2007, 11:06 PM	#2
KurtCobain Banned Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ban City, USA Casino cash: $14798240	Solid idea.
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Short Leash Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $3910	a block in the back is a penalty because it is dangerous...
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runnercyclist Wild and Wonderful Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 304 Casino cash: $9896	NEver happen. The Zebs need to use better judgement in airing their laundry. It should be blatant and effect the outcome of the play, otherwise don't throw the flag.
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mcan Apr 13,1949 – Dec 15, 2011 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $215736	25% is probably conservative. You put your ten best tacklers on the field and your fastest guy. Fastest guy gets the ball. Everybody else (except one guy and the kicker) gets tackled. Touchdown every time.
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09-24-2007, 12:15 AM	#10
Discuss Thrower International Postman Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: No, where do YOU live? Casino cash: $30245	No, I think a system that is something like a "delayed" call is in order. Individual official spots a foul, throws a flag to mark infraction. If it's decided that the foul had no bearing on the outcome of the play in question, flag is pocketed. If it has an effect, penalty stands. __________________ - credit goes to BoneKrusher for the pic "Inception: (in-ˈsep-shən)--n. the act of convincing a female (usually out of one’s league) to have sex with you by making the female think it is her own idea.
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09-24-2007, 01:04 AM	#11
mcan Apr 13,1949 – Dec 15, 2011 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $215736	How about players just not hit people in the back? Holding happens a lot and subsequently a lot of holding gets called and still a ton more goes unnoticed or unpenalized. But just one good block in the back can completely spring a return man. They're going to call it every time they see it, regardless of where it happens.
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