Rasslin is CHA CHA LA..LA,LA,LA,LA,LA

[Ultra Peanut]

RAW. IS. FANDANGO!
#AJALL

[Ultra Peanut]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

McMahon giving money away is really killing the flow of the show. I'm curious to see what the ratings will be, though.

Did any of you loons register?

(I didn't)

How could I pass up the chance to win $2?

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut

Take THAT, obscenely expensive Jeritron 6000!

Just got there on my DVR. Goddamn. Those two are going to steal the show in any program with each other.

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

GOD DAMNIT THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE MINE

[Ultra Peanut]

Did they have to bleep out "WWF" and "shit"?

Justin Smith rules.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

God, I loved this angle. RIP Ray Traylor.

[Reaper16]

So I've read 400 + pages of Bret Hart's unreleased-in-the-U.S. memoir, "Hitman," in the past two days... it's fantastic. It feels super-credible, even at its most ego-placating moments. One downside is that I respect HBK a considerable deal less than I did before picking up this book.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

So I've read 400 + pages of Bret Hart's unreleased-in-the-U.S. memoir, "Hitman," in the past two days... it's fantastic. It feels super-credible, even at its most ego-placating moments. One downside is that I respect HBK a considerable deal less than I did before picking up this book.

Pretty obvious he has an axe to grind with HBK. I wonder how much of it is true.

[Ultra Peanut]

I doubt there's anything in there that's too shocking, considering how incredibly massive a douchebag HBK was in the '90s, but yeah, you've definitely got to take the fact that Bret basically considers Shawn the worst person on Earth into account.

By the way, AmDrag made Cade tape to the cattle mutilation in a dark match. Shrug.

[Moobs]

Heh, GTV on that Big Show vid. What was the original plan for that angle supposed to be? Didn't it end up being Golddust TV or something?

[Swanman]

Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut

By the way, AmDrag made Cade tape to the cattle mutilation in a dark match. Shrug.

That makes me happy and sad at the same time. If Dragon can get a WWE contract and a nice payday, then good for him. He'll be able to retire sooner. But at the same time, you know that Vince and his big-man obsession will get in the way of putting Danielson where he should be, and that's not in the lower or mid-card. The fact that he's less than 200 lbs will really hurt him with the idiot WWE writers. But at the same time, he was trained by Regal and HBK, so that can't hurt. He's at the stage in his career in ROH where he's passing the torch to the younger guys (like losing the fall to Tyler Black in a tag match over the weekend), so it won't surprise me if he leaves, although I don't want him to. He's one of the very first original ROH guys (along with Low Ki and Christopher Daniels).

[keg in kc]

I was shocked when I read that. Both that he had a dark match and that he won. That's almost as weird as it was watching his match with Cena on youtube.

[Farzin]

I've lost interest in wrestling. Last time I went to a show was NYR 2007 in Kemper..frickin amazing. I loved the DX match.

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut

I doubt there's anything in there that's too shocking, considering how incredibly massive a douchebag HBK was in the '90s, but yeah, you've definitely got to take the fact that Bret basically considers Shawn the worst person on Earth into account.

I was going through my VHS archive this morning to watch HBK promos from late '96-'97... Bret was understating how much of a jackass HBK was on-camera during that time period. Shawn was breaking kayfabe all the damn time, delivering personal attacks on Bret during interviews and during guest commentary. Kayfabe still meant something back then, too; its ridiculous to see how unprofessional Shawn was. It seems that he's a whole lot more mature now than he was then, thankfully.

[BigRock]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

I was going through my VHS archive this morning to watch HBK promos from late '96-'97... Bret was understating how much of a jackass HBK was on-camera during that time period. Shawn was breaking kayfabe all the damn time, delivering personal attacks on Bret during interviews and during guest commentary. Kayfabe still meant something back then, too; its ridiculous to see how unprofessional Shawn was. It seems that he's a whole lot more mature now than he was then, thankfully.

It was certainly unprofessional, but the sad part about Bret's book is that he basically admits that everything Shawn used to say about him back then was true. He doesn't say "Shawn was right", but he admits that he went around banging broads everywhere he went, constantly cheating on his wife while promoting a "family values" image on TV.

Not that it excuses HBK, but as seriously as Bret seemed to take himself, I can understand how the hypocrisy would start to grate on others around him.

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by BigRock

It was certainly unprofessional, but the sad part about Bret's book is that he basically admits that everything Shawn used to say about him back then was true. He doesn't say "Shawn was right", but he admits that he went around banging broads everywhere he went, constantly cheating on his wife while promoting a "family values" image on TV.

Not that it excuses HBK, but as seriously as Bret seemed to take himself, I can understand how the hypocrisy would start to grate on others around him.

That's certainly true. Bret had about as much to do with their inability to coexist with each other as Shawn did. Nearly everything Shawn said about Bret was true, though it doesn't excuse Shawn from saying those things on camera. Bret could have broken kayfabe, too, and drilled Shawn for being the unstable, pill-popping, power-hungry jackass that he was, but Bret at least had the sense to not let their squabble spiral to that point.