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Old 07-26-2011, 02:43 AM   #7021
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This is what going to happen. Cena going to be like oh i better watch out the cult of personality hit cm punk enter. He tell cena he tired of the wwe and since he not under contract he can do whatever he want. That when the light goes out and when it come back on the kow and colt cabana in the ring and give cena the beating of the lifetime but not. Cm punk then say that how everybody expect to happen but not now.
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Old 07-26-2011, 02:51 AM   #7022
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Old 07-26-2011, 02:56 AM   #7023
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hey double double e, **** you for making me want to watch again. I felt so much more respectable for the two and a half years I didn't have to skulk around watching wrestling, and now I have to try to keep my roommates from hearing my TV and thinking less of me for watching the Stupid Poors Show.

Elsewise, that went in a pretty good direction and they don't seem to be ignoring the Young Peoples so much anymore. Bringing JR back made me mark out harder than the ending, and for that part? For that part:

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What a cluster **** of a Raw this week was. The way Punk returned was good, but he was off TV for a week. They really should of built it up to at least Summerslam.

Miz outperformed Mysterio in the ring and lost, a match up that hasn't happened in years (Cena/Mysterio) had literally no build up and basically was to hot shot a worthless title.

The matches themselves overall were pretty good, but the booking was horrendous.
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Old 07-26-2011, 03:07 AM   #7024
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Old 07-26-2011, 07:11 AM   #7025
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I'm worried, actually, about how soon Punk came back. I'm worried that WWE corproate was disappointed in the ratings for last week's Raw, and decided to scrap the Punk-as-absent-champion storyline far earlier than expected, and that they'll take the strap off of Punk at SummerSlam and Punk will get his time off then but it'll be status quo in the WWE.

I'm worried.
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Old 07-26-2011, 10:24 AM   #7026
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Old 07-26-2011, 10:34 AM   #7027
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I'm worried, actually, about how soon Punk came back. I'm worried that WWE corproate was disappointed in the ratings for last week's Raw, and decided to scrap the Punk-as-absent-champion storyline far earlier than expected, and that they'll take the strap off of Punk at SummerSlam and Punk will get his time off then but it'll be status quo in the WWE.

I'm worried.
It's sure going to be interesting to see where it goes. I'm not worried, exactly, because I've expected it to fall apart at some point since day 1. It's amazing to me they've kept the angle this hot for a month...

I thought it was early, like I said last night, but it also makes sense to do it while Punk is hot and have the rematch of what's likely the match-of-the-year on a major show like Summerslam. Then that gives them some time to cool the Punk/Cena feud and start to work the Rock back into things by his Survivor Series return.

Although, you would think the next PPV....Night of Champions....would have been a perfect set-up (in name at least) for the fake champion and real champion to meet.

And I hope that's how they play it. That Cena's a fraud, that the entire tournament was a fraud, because that way it doesn't seem that ridiculous that Mysterio only held the title for an hour. Because in fact he didn't hold the title at all...
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Old 07-26-2011, 10:40 AM   #7028
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Old 07-26-2011, 10:42 AM   #7029
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It's sure going to be interesting to see where it goes. I'm not worried, exactly, because I've expected it to fall apart at some point since day 1. It's amazing to me they've kept the angle this hot for a month...

I thought it was early, like I said last night, but it also makes sense to do it while Punk is hot and have the rematch of what's likely the match-of-the-year on a major show like Summerslam. Then that gives them some time to cool the Punk/Cena feud and start to work the Rock back into things by his Survivor Series return.

Although, you would think the next PPV....Night of Champions....would have been a perfect set-up (in name at least) for the fake champion and real champion to meet.

And I hope that's how they play it. That Cena's a fraud, that the entire tournament was a fraud, because that way it doesn't seem that ridiculous that Mysterio only held the title for an hour. Because in fact he didn't hold the title at all...
I totally understand the idea of striking while the iron is hot in terms of Punk. He's was arguable TOO hot to keep off TV, and they can easily make a bonafide franchise star out of him if they play this angle correctly.

I just have a sinking feeling that Cena is going to win clean at SummerSlam, with Punk taking time off after that, and all that good work being undone.
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I just have a sinking feeling that Cena is going to win clean at SummerSlam, with Punk taking time off after that, and all that good work being undone.
That's unfortunately exactly what I expect to happen as well.

Punk could be a megastar if they do this right.
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Old 07-26-2011, 10:57 AM   #7031
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You have to make cm punk act like screw authority much like stone cold was like early on. That is loudest pop I've heard in a while it was like the attitude era pop.
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Meltzer says that it doesn't matter who goes over at summerslam, and basically that we're all going to be disappointed, because it isn't about keeping the title on Punk or moving it back to Cena, it's about putting it on Del Rio.

(Of course that's been the idea for months now and week after week they don't do it)
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Old 07-26-2011, 05:47 PM   #7033
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Meltzer says that it doesn't matter who goes over at summerslam, and basically that we're all going to be disappointed, because it isn't about keeping the title on Punk or moving it back to Cena, it's about putting it on Del Rio.

(Of course that's been the idea for months now and week after week they don't do it)

They've got a ridiculously over champion Punk, and a guy with Cena that they can do a lot with in terms of making him a heel or whatever. Del Rio, at least from what I can tell, still doesn't get much of a reaction from the live crowd.

Punk needs to either be in a huge non-title match (HHH?) or walk out as the WWE Champion at WM 28 IMO. He's earned it, he's now credible enough to make it work and he's obviously over. They have to cash in on his popularity and make him a big star over this (although, like most of you, I totally expect them to completely **** this up in the next month or so).
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Interesting read from former ECW writer, Dave Lagana, about Punk's run in ECW and how close he was to never making it. Love the part about HBK "saving" him. God, I wish those two could have had just one feud...

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On December 4th, 2006, Paul Heyman left the WWE Creative Team, for the final time. This also meant that for the first time ever, Heyman would not be involved in the creative process of ECW. Stephanie McMahon walked into the writer’s room to tell us Paul would no longer be involved and that I was now in charge of ECW. This was as much news to me as it was the rest of the team. As had happened with Alex Greenfield when he took over Smackdown, I wasn’t talked to about the new position. I wasn’t doing backflips about this because I knew the baggage that came with it. I had run Smackdown for four years before this and knew how Vince and Kevin Dunn viewed ECW. The world saw how they viewed the brand for the five months before this and especially the night before on PPV with December to Dismember.

The PPV from Augusta, GA featuring an Extreme Elimination Chamber match was the least bought WWE PPV in history. The show was handicapped by zero promotion from Raw and Smackdown and being the 2nd WWE PPV in eight days; following Survivor Series. The main purpose of the event was to crown Bobby Lashley as the new flag bearer for ECW. The event had only two matches announced before hand, the Elimination Chamber and the reuniting of MNM vs. The Hardyz. While Lashley was going to be the “man” that night winning the title, there was a pitch by Heyman to have CM Punk and Big Show start the Chamber and for Punk to eliminate the Big Show with the Anaconda Vice. Big Show was behind the idea and felt it was the right move to make. There were a few different long term pitches off of this including Punk vs. RVD at Wrestlemania. Heyman had protected Punk, including making sure his debut match was at the Hammerstein Ballroom. This pitch was meant to establish Punk as the “next” guy after Lashley. If you’ve seen the match, you know this didn’t happen.

The Anaconda Vice became one of the things that the agents picked on Punk for. Vince had mocked Punk in meetings by doing the wrist gesture and even instructed announcers to NOT mention his Muai Thai background. Everything that made Punk unique was questioned and mocked. “Don’t think people can relate to with a character who doesn’t have an occasional beer”, said one agent. In 2006, Vince McMahon looked at Punk and “didn’t get it”. Plus, when you have Paul Heyman pushing heavily for you in that environment – you get the stigma of being a “Paul Heyman Guy”. I had the stigma because I worked with Paul on every run he had on creative from 2002 – 2006. Punk suffered for those sins and that night in December, he did not make the Big Show tap out. The agents who didn’t like him made sure the audience would not get a moment from CM Punk that night; Punk was the first man eliminated in the match.

In under 24 hours, everything about ECW had changed. Heyman was out, Big Show was gone, and I was left with a mess. CM Punk, a lot like ECW, Goldberg, the NWO and especially WCW, were not WWE creations. The track record has shown that Kevin Dunn and Vince McMahon do not support ideas that were not generated inside their bubble. Punk got the tag line of “King of the Indies” and those agents who didn’t like him before Heyman was gone, they were out for blood now.

I’m no Paul Heyman. I won’t ever try to sell you that I’m a genius, instead just a guy who always wants to do the best for the talents and projects I work on. I had a connection with ECW, it’s what kept me excited about the business in 1994 and 1995 when there wasn’t much to be excited about. That spirit of ECW was what we tried to continue in the new ECW, including launching a new star like CM Punk. But I didn’t have an ally, especially a veteran voice, in that agent meeting.

The voices in that meeting room pushed for Hardcore Holly. Now, I am a fan of Hardcore Holly. When Brock Lesnar had broke Holly’s neck, it was Bruce Prichard and I who suggested Holly coming for revenge. (watch here) It was the hottest Holly ever got but he didn’t connect with the audience and they had a forgettable match at the Royal Rumble 2004. Here it was 2007 and the agents were pushing for Holly ahead Punk. In their matches during December and January, Holly beat down Punk in the corner, ignoring the ref’s count and getting disqualified. (watch here) And then Hardcore Holly hands Punk his first loss. (watch here) I had heard rumblings of agents pushing Vince to show Punk the door. ECW started to receive less and less attention and then we had the horrible show in Little Rock in mid-January. The matches were bad, the interviews were bad; the plane flight home from that show was worse. It was the longest flight of my life. The next day I sat down to talk with Stephanie about that flight but more importantly about what I thought ECW needed. I needed a veteran voice to help turn the tide. I needed an ally.

Fast forward to the agent meeting in Houston. Vince McMahon was scheduled to appear on ECW for the first time in the start of a new storyline. He was going to rid ECW of it’s “Original” stars and make the way for a “New Breed”. The meeting quickly turned into another CM Punk bash fest. My role was to run the meeting but dare not speak out of turn on the veteran agents. This was how the previous months meetings had gone but this day was different. It was a new voice in the room that changed everything. “Um, if you don’t like something the kid is doing, why don’t you work with him to fix it… instead of killing him” That voice belonged to Shawn Michaels.

In January of 2007, Shawn Michaels was my consultant on ECW. I was able to get in his input on the shows, thoughts on talents and in this situation the voice needed in that agent meeting. Like getting to work with Paul Heyman, Vince McMahon, Dusty Rhodees, working with Shawn was a dream come true. In that meeting in Houston, Shawn brought up that guys like him and Undertaker will not be around forever and, while everyone liked Holly, it was guys like Punk who were the future. The mood in the room changed, the den of negativity that existed was silenced for the time being. Punk wasn’t pushed strong that week or even the next week but the ship had turned. Punk was positioned better from that point forward.

Shawn Michaels was pulled back into active duty when Triple H was hurt and programmed to face John Cena at Wrestlemania 23. Dusty Rhodes ended up joining me to help book ECW. And CM Punk made Wrestlemania 23 as the only ECW guy in the Money In the Bank Ladder Match.

In that Money In the Bank ladder match, Punk was involved in the finish of the match. He was finger tips away from the briefcase only to have Mr. Kennedy knock him off and grab the case. This was just foreshadowing as Punk did go on to win the Money in the Bank briefcase in back to back years to win his first two World Titles.

Imagine if those agents would have gotten their way back in early 2007? We might have never gotten to see this at the 2011 Money in the Bank PPV.

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