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Old 07-27-2011, 01:19 PM   #7051
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IRL beat up? That sucks. I started watching when he started wrestling back in the day.

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Yeah, he's pretty slow now.

This was his last sighting.

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Old 07-27-2011, 06:40 PM   #7052
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When the dust cleared, SummerSlam on 8/14 in Los Angeles is set for John Cena vs. C.M. Punk to unify the WWE title after a television show that went through several weeks, if not months, worth of booking. Christian vs. Randy Orton in a last man standing match is the Smackdown title bout. This was a change from a triple headliner of Punk vs. HHH, Alberto Del Rio vs. Cena for the WWE title and Christian vs. Orton as was the original plan for the show.

...While much of this angle’s genesis came from Punk to Vince McMahon, in the end, the angle was going to be shaped for the purposes of getting the family over primarily, and Punk secondarily. In the end, Punk is a bigger star for it. His elevation wasn’t shut down as it would have been in the original booking concept, where he was to return at the end of the show, get beaten up by HHH, left laying with a pedigree and Alberto Del Rio would come down, cash in his briefcase, beat him to win the title, and Del Rio would go to SummerSlam and defend against Cena.

The loser of the week ended up Del Rio, who is not only out the championship for at least the fourth time it was planned for him, but also seems in limbo at SummerSlam instead of being the champion defending in the main event.

The company originally felt they wanted Del Rio as champion for a show in the Los Angeles market, to try and draw from the Latin community, and in particular had a long-term plan of Del Rio as champion when they return to Mexico in October with the idea it’s the first time a Mexican would hold a WWE title while they were in Mexico, and when TV is being taped for the first time ever in Mexico. It was seen as a chance to really broaden the fan base in what is currently the company’s strongest market. The attack by HHH was designed by make him a strong heel for a match with Punk, and thus, by extension give Punk a strong heel to work with to help him get over as a face.

Del Rio is still supposed to get the title at some point very soon. Those close to the situation indicate Cena vs. Del Rio is sort of planned for September, but given how frequently things change, the idea they even have a decision on the winner of the SummerSlam main that won’t change several times between now and then is laughable.

...While to a lot of people, Punk was the big story, internally, it was very clear that it is still all about the family, and Punk’s return on TV was all about getting HHH over. So while you can come up with a lot of better options than what they did, if you’re a Punk fan, it was as good as it was going to get because Punk was not going to be made into a bigger deal than HHH’s new role. Whether HHH eventually goes heel and feuds with Punk, which was also on the drawing board at one point, well, that more depends on whether they want HHH to go heel and when.
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Old 07-27-2011, 07:46 PM   #7053
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Old 07-27-2011, 07:50 PM   #7054
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I'm going to treat that as nothing more than message board speculation. Because the thought of Punk being built up only to be fed to HHH is even more infuriating than the prospect of Cena winning at SummerSlam.
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Old 07-27-2011, 09:10 PM   #7055
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I'm going to treat that as nothing more than message board speculation. Because the thought of Punk being built up only to be fed to HHH is even more infuriating than the prospect of Cena winning at SummerSlam.
I didn't read that as Punk being fed to HHH. I read that as Punk being used to establish HHH's new corporate character, who would later turn heel and then himself be fed to Punk to build Punk as a major face. And my guess is they're still going to do that. Saying HHH hired Punk late Monday looks like the start of establishing HHH's bonafides as COO. And they're obviously pushing that character very hard, putting him on both shows this week.

It would, however, have looked like Punk being fed to HHH if they'd done the pedigree/cash in Monday, so I'm glad they didn't do it. Zero sense in that, not on the night he returned. From his extended vacation.
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Old 07-27-2011, 09:17 PM   #7056
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I can live with Punk losing at SummerSlam (I'd definitely be pissed, though), as long as they keep him in the spotlight. But putting HHH over him, especially clean, would be incredibly stupid. I'd like to see a HHH-Punk match at WM28, but not if they're gunna have HHH go over. Stupid.

I'd rather them just have Del Rio fail at a cash-in and move him down the card for a bit. They tried giving him a ME push too early at the Rumble earlier this year and he wasn't generating a whole lot of heat then, nor is he now. If they hand him the title and it's a dud, it could ruin his career for the foreseeable future (see: Swagger).

Punk's the #1 guy right now and the guy people want to see, not Del Rio. Don't ruin what's been a great angle because you want a Mexican guy to have the title in Mexico, especially when the Mexican guy isn't over enough to warrant it.

That said, I fully expect WWE to do whatever they can to screw this up.
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Old 07-27-2011, 09:22 PM   #7057
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I want to see Punk end taker's streak at mania. As a face.

Talk about putting a guy over huge, if they could pull that off.

(I'd say there's zero chance, but that's overly optimistic.)
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Old 07-27-2011, 10:01 PM   #7058
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I'd much rather Del Rio cash in and take the belt off of Punk than see Punk lose to Cena. For me, my resistance to a Cena victory at SummerSlam doesn't lie with a Punk loss. I am fine with Punk losing a match, and I am fine with Punk giving up the title. What I'm not fine with is John Cena, specifically, winning. There's no reason for Cena to go over. He wins all of the time, he's incredibly stale, and most importantly, a loss won't harm Cena in the slightest bit. He's going to be mega-popular with the kids in perpetuity.
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On the bright side, I'd be able to stop watching again in pretty short order.
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Also, I was reading old posts in this thread to catch myself up on stuff and realized I haven't watched any footage of WGTT in ROH. I'm such a dork.
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Also, I was reading old posts in this thread to catch myself up on stuff and realized I haven't watched any footage of WGTT in ROH. I'm such a dork.
You should watch the last RoH PPV: Best in the World. It's really solid from start to finish, but the last two matches are insane. The penultimate match is a 4-way elimination tag team match for the Tag Team Championship between WGTT, Kings of Wrestling, The Briscoes, and The All Night Express. Insanity. The main event is the ROH World Title match between Eddie Edwards and Davey Richards. So good.
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