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Old 10-07-2007, 09:13 PM  
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Old 01-29-2008, 12:52 AM   #871
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The only guy I ever think has a chance to go over HHH is Cena because Vince will never allow Cena to be buried everyone else is fair game though....

As for the other things you said, other than his 1 injury Cena has been one of the more durable guys they've had. He's had 1 injury in the entire time he's been pushed. The other 2 guys are extremely injury prone though...

I think Triple H is in the business because he loves it but his agenda's will always be questioned. He idolized Flair growing up but the way he acts about himself and the way he does things speak more of Hogan. He's also put himself by marrying Stephanie in a position to still be relevant to wrestling for the rest of his life and possibly even longer. H is one of those guys who I think because of what he's into wrestling wise and all that has a great future when he retires. I think his mind for the business is outstanding just not when he's involved as being an active participant.

It's kind of weird to say this but when Vince is gone..the future of that company is going to rest more on Triple H than anyone, he's more right minded to the business than any of Vince's kids.

Batista got into it late for the money and women nothing more nothing less.

But I must post this..

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Old 01-29-2008, 12:55 AM   #872
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If Cena wasn't pushed as the end-all, be-all, , Overcome-the-odds, never lose at all, excruciatingly long reigning champion whose gimmick consists entirely of being "Tha' Champ," then he'd be a lot more palatable.
You can tell that he cares about the industry, and despite his tendency towards 5 moves of doom, was involved in some of 2007's best matches.
If Cena was allowed to actually lose sometimes it'd be a lot better situation.
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Old 01-29-2008, 12:57 AM   #873
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No doubt, the future of the business is Levesque and Stephanie. It's a matter of when, and not if.

I think part of the reason I tire of him is because he's been doing the same gimmick for a decade. Which says something for his longevity, obviously. But eventually enough is enough.
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Old 01-29-2008, 12:58 AM   #874
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I don't know why, but I got the vibe watching Raw tonight that Cena's losing at No Way Out.
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Old 01-29-2008, 01:02 AM   #875
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Triple H doesn't even have a gimmick anymore...sometimes he's DX guy other times he's bad ass other times he's just there...I couldn't even tell you what his gimmick is.

To what Reaper said, here's the only problem with that. If you want someone to get over you have to book them dominantly. If Cena loses matches now it's a huge deal because he never loses. You get to the point where just him jobbing can make someone a star.

The other thing is, this doesn't really apply to Cena now because he is already a star. But I hate 50/50 booking more than I hate star power booking. If you book everyone 50/50 no one really gets over you have a roster of just guys and no stars, TNA has a severe issue with this kind of booking.
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Old 01-29-2008, 01:19 AM   #876
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Triple H doesn't even have a gimmick anymore...sometimes he's DX guy other times he's bad ass other times he's just there...I couldn't even tell you what his gimmick is.
At the core of it all, he's always the same guy. Hun-Tor the Barbarian. The King of Kings.
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Old 01-29-2008, 03:22 AM   #877
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In fairness the guy is their biggest draw and those guys rarely lose at Mania, faces almost always go over at Mania and top draws as well.

How many times did Hogan do a Mania job?
That's just it, it's not 1987. If Hulk Hogan hadn't come along until 2005, and every show was ending with him kicking out of the other guy's finisher, dropping the leg, and posing, he'd be getting booed just like Cena is. Probably much worse, 'cause at least Cena's not that bad where it's the same formula every time.

But it's gotten to the point where there's no odds he can't overcome, no wrestler he can't beat. And, good lord, he just came back in 4 months from something they said would keep him out a year. Who is he, Jack Bauer? Does he have the healing ability of Wolverine?

And like I said, I like Cena. I'm not one of these too-cool-for-school guys in the crowd who dump on him. I think he's entertaining and better in the ring than a lot of people give him credit for. I've never cared when he wins. I thought the Rumble surprise was great.

But it's kinda gone from it being "cool" to hate Cena to the point where there's comparisons out there between Sunday's Rumble finish and WrestleMania 9 where they shoe-horned Hogan back in as world champion out of nowhere. This resentment like "Oh God, not Cena again".

Is it a horrible decision if he wins the belt and then wins at Mania? Not at all. But he could stand to lose, that's all I'm saying. Not all the time, not even again for the rest of 2008. Just once in a major match.
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OMFG, that was the greatest moment in the new ECW right there.
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All-in-all, excluding the fast-forward over the lost minutes known as the "diva segment" that was a pretty solid ECW.

Although I'm mixed on Colin Delaney. I'm not sure I liked the tease of him beating M&M, and I don't like Tommy Dreamer coming out.
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Basically, I want to see more Kofi Kingston. An Elijah Burke/Kofi Kingston program would give me a stiffy.
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Basically, I want to see more Kofi Kingston. An Elijah Burke/Kofi Kingston program would give me a stiffy.
They need to form a stable and feud with CM Punk and Colt Cabana. Miz and Morrison (or at least Miz) need to disappear.
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