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Old 10-07-2007, 09:13 PM  
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Old 02-18-2013, 08:07 PM   #8971
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Anyone see a Jericho double cross here?
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Old 02-18-2013, 08:09 PM   #8972
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Anyone see a Jericho double cross here?
Thinking the same thing, but also read there might be a Ryback vs Sheamus match at Mania with Ryback being the heel.
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Old 02-18-2013, 08:14 PM   #8973
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Thinking the same thing, but also read there might be a Ryback vs Sheamus match at Mania with Ryback being the heel.
I don't think that the fans would really accept that....
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Old 02-18-2013, 08:50 PM   #8974
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Rock/Cena rematch is totally killing my interest in wrestlemania. Not like I haven't known it was coming for a year. And they'll do a third "once in a lifetime!" match next year.

Smug cena as champion post mania will probably lead me to stop watching raw again.
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Old 02-18-2013, 08:51 PM   #8975
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Wow, a marching band. On raw.

Wow, those chicks on the flute are huge.

I feel terrible for making that observation.
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Old 02-18-2013, 08:54 PM   #8976
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Rock/Cena rematch is totally killing my interest in wrestlemania. Not like I haven't known it was coming for a year. And they'll do a third "once in a lifetime!" match next year.

Smug cena as champion post mania will probably lead me to stop watching raw again.
Honestly the set up with Punk and Cena at the first of the show was pretty lame...and predictable.
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Old 02-18-2013, 08:57 PM   #8977
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Honestly the set up with Punk and Cena at the first of the show was pretty lame...and predictable.
That's what happens when the crowd cheers Punk and Cena's like a black hole sucking the energy and enthusiasm (and maturity) out of everything. Dude is just coming off as more and more fake every week. His presentation I mean, I get that it's all fake.
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Old 02-18-2013, 08:57 PM   #8978
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Old 02-18-2013, 08:59 PM   #8979
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Long past time they got rid of the spinner belt.

Not sure I like that one much more, though.
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Old 02-18-2013, 09:04 PM   #8980
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I guess I just need to get used to promos as the ending of Raw.
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Old 02-18-2013, 09:05 PM   #8981
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That's what happens when the crowd cheers Punk and Cena's like a black hole sucking the energy and enthusiasm (and maturity) out of everything. Dude is just coming off as more and more fake every week. His presentation I mean, I get that it's all fake.
Yeah...but to me Punk's routine is getting to be just that....routine. While Cena may be sucking the life out of Punk, Punk isn't really impressing me either.

Guys like Stone Cold, even when the guy opposite him was being lame, could still excite the crowd.

Wow...even this closing segment....with Punk and Cena coming out...it took whatever air there was left in the show and shoved it out the window.
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Old 02-18-2013, 09:13 PM   #8982
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The creative writing is anything BUT creative. If we could mix MIB II and RAW together for a moment, I believe the next line would be, "This has go home and do it again." written all over it. Yikes.
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Old 02-18-2013, 09:22 PM   #8983
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Yeah...but to me Punk's routine is getting to be just that....routine. While Cena may be sucking the life out of Punk, Punk isn't really impressing me either.

Guys like Stone Cold, even when the guy opposite him was being lame, could still excite the crowd.

Wow...even this closing segment....with Punk and Cena coming out...it took whatever air there was left in the show and shoved it out the window.
That's apples and oranges. Punk's being a heel in the truest sense of the word. He isn't trying to get the crowd behind him at all. Which isn't anything close to stone cold's gimmick.

The problem with that last segment is that it isn't so much a dastardly heel move because at least half the crowd sees him hitting Cena from behind with the belt as a face move, simply because it shuts him up. If people are fed up now with Cena being pushed down their throats, I can't wait for mid-April and his victory speeches marking the beginning of the new supercena era.

At least a 3-way would be something different. If they actually do that, and tonight wasn't just a tease. Rock and Punk have a good dynamic with each other on the mic, so perhaps that will balance out how poorly Cena does in a back in forth with either of them.
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Old 02-18-2013, 09:38 PM   #8984
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That's apples and oranges. Punk's being a heel in the truest sense of the word. He isn't trying to get the crowd behind him at all. Which isn't anything close to stone cold's gimmick.

The problem with that last segment is that it isn't so much a dastardly heel move because at least half the crowd sees him hitting Cena from behind with the belt as a face move, simply because it shuts him up. If people are fed up now with Cena being pushed down their throats, I can't wait for mid-April and his victory speeches marking the beginning of the new supercena era.

At least a 3-way would be something different. If they actually do that, and tonight wasn't just a tease. Rock and Punk have a good dynamic with each other on the mic, so perhaps that will balance out how poorly Cena does in a back in forth with either of them.
See....this is where we disagree. Punk IS trying to get the anti-Cena crowd, and remain a semi-face, kind of like what Triple H and Shawn Michaels used to pull off. But they also had decent "opponents" that they could play off of.

And I disagree that Punk and Rock have a good dynamic.....separately they are fine but when you get them on the stage together, it just doesn't seem to sync. That's just my opinion....
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Old 02-18-2013, 10:31 PM   #8985
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See....this is where we disagree. Punk IS trying to get the anti-Cena crowd, and remain a semi-face, kind of like what Triple H and Shawn Michaels used to pull off. But they also had decent "opponents" that they could play off of.
No. Not at all, whatsoever. I can't disagree with this more. Ever since his heel turn he's made strident choices to get the anti-Cena crowd to STOP cheering for him.
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