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Old 01-29-2014, 08:32 AM   #9916
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Anyone else prefer an Undertaker vs Bray Wyatt mania match as opposed to Sting or Brock?
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Old 01-29-2014, 08:42 AM   #9917
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Anyone else prefer an Undertaker vs Bray Wyatt mania match as opposed to Sting or Brock?
I like Bray Wyatt but I think Undertaker/Sting would be billed as a much bigger match. However, what I've learned from the WWE since the "attitude" era ended is they don't really care what the fans want to see.
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Old 01-29-2014, 08:43 AM   #9918
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This could be a work. It's just true enough to what we expect from Punk to make us believe it. I'd be pissed too if Batista, who can't work and has no conditioning, took my Wrestlemania headlining spot.

To address something CoMo said earlier: part of the reason that you think WWE has no star power or 'legends' from the last decade is because of WWE's propensity to bring back old wrestlers for feature matches during Mania time. They do so because they want PPV buys from people who no longer actively watch wrestling but might order something where someone they remember (The Rock, Batista, whoever) is wrestling.

That short-term thinking leads to people thinking that WWE has a lack of talent, because the signal sent is that the company doesn't care about or trust its younger guys.

But that is so far removed from the objective truth of the matter, which is that WWE has more talent on its roster today than it EVER has at any point in its history. They're just hesitant to let it shine to its fullest.
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Old 01-29-2014, 09:07 AM   #9919
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you'll be able to tell if it's a work or not very easily

Punks girlfriend has been the longest reigning Womens champ, do they now instantly take it away? Bury her because of her boyfriend? Does she stand by her man? AJ is the only diva on the roster that brings in any revenue.

One of Punks best friends was rumored to sign for the WWE Network? What happens there?

Stone Cold walked out like this one time because he was unhappy with the programming and Vince buried him on television, and Stone Cold was like Vinces biggest cash cow ever.

You will never get one over on Vince or Triple H and they will go out of their way to bury you in promos, your family, friends, everything. They will take plenty of shots at him on television, just watch.
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Old 01-29-2014, 09:10 AM   #9920
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you'll be able to tell if it's a work or not very easily

Punks girlfriend has been the longest reigning Womens champ, do they now instantly take it away? Bury her because of her boyfriend? Does she stand by her man? AJ is the only diva on the roster that brings in any revenue.

One of Punks best friends was rumored to sign for the WWE Network? What happens there?

Stone Cold walked out like this one time because he was unhappy with the programming and Vince buried him on television, and Stone Cold was like Vinces biggest cash cow ever.

You will never get one over on Vince or Triple H and they will go out of their way to bury you in promos, your family, friends, everything. They will take plenty of shots at him on television, just watch.
Well, AJ did get pinned on Raw because she got touched by a butt.

Seriously though, great points.
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Old 01-29-2014, 09:24 AM   #9921
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I think the question is, is what is "headlining" Wrestlemania to Punk? or a fan for that matter?

I'm not sure Punk wants to even wrestle the Cenas, Ortons and Batistsas or the world for the belt, as any sort of belt match has been overshadowed by Taker matches for the last ___ years now.

So what were the definition of headlining?

*Ending Takers streak
*match with Stone Cold
*would 54 year old Sting even be attractive?
*Obviously not wrestling Kane or being buried by Triple H again is an option here in Punks eyes

so unless he gets bailed out by Stone Cold (not this year), I can't see any match Punk would like to be in where he is happy.
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Old 01-29-2014, 09:27 AM   #9922
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I think the question is, is what is "headlining" Wrestlemania to Punk? or a fan for that matter?

I'm not sure Punk wants to even wrestle the Cenas, Ortons and Batistsas or the world for the belt, as any sort of belt match has been overshadowed by Taker matches for the last ___ years now.

So what were the definition of headlining?

*Ending Takers streak
*match with Stone Cold
*would 54 year old Sting even be attractive?
*Obviously not wrestling Kane or being buried by Triple H again is an option here in Punks eyes

so unless he gets bailed out by Stone Cold (not this year), I can't see any match Punk would like to be in where he is happy.
Well, the dirtsheet reports indicate that headlining, to Punk, meant literally headlining. If we believe them & their suggestions that, pre-Batista, Punk was set to win the Rumble and wrestle Orton for the strap[s].
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Old 01-29-2014, 09:35 AM   #9923
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Well, the dirtsheet reports indicate that headlining, to Punk, meant literally headlining. If we believe them & their suggestions that, pre-Batista, Punk was set to win the Rumble and wrestle Orton for the strap[s].
While I think Punk has definitely more than paid his dues what he should do is count his lucky stars and not look a gift horse in the mouth. He's notorious for these temper-tantrums and I think Vince is sick of it. He should shut-up, count his blessings and his money, bang that little hot ass AJ Lee some more and wrestle whoever the WWE tells him to wrestle.
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Old 01-29-2014, 10:15 AM   #9924
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Well, the dirtsheet reports indicate that headlining, to Punk, meant literally headlining. If we believe them & their suggestions that, pre-Batista, Punk was set to win the Rumble and wrestle Orton for the strap[s].
Actually come to think of it, you are right. Punk did that interview with that MMA dude in his house right before the Rumble and Punk said the Rumble is his favorite pay per view. So I can see him wanting to win the Rumble, and wanting to win it at #1 ala 2004 the Rumble that does not exist anymore.

And I mean I guess Punk has a point, a few years ago THE MIZ HEADLINED WRESTLEMANIA FOR GOODNESS SAKE. And that is really pathetic to think about.
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Old 01-29-2014, 12:59 PM   #9925
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Well, the dirtsheet reports indicate that headlining, to Punk, meant literally headlining. If we believe them & their suggestions that, pre-Batista, Punk was set to win the Rumble and wrestle Orton for the strap[s].
dirtsheets are wrong most of the time

The one thing I do know is Punk has hardly had any time off in a long while and you could tell he was seriously hurting in the Rumble.
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Old 01-29-2014, 03:22 PM   #9926
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He reportedly left immediately before raw. I'd say that sounds more like "**** this bullshit I'm going home" than "man, I'm beat up, gonna take some time off".
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Old 01-29-2014, 03:37 PM   #9927
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For what it's worth, WWE's Twitter account unfollowed CM Punk today. TMZ has picked up on reports of Punk walking out on WWE and say he has no plans on returning. Here is an excerpt of what they reported:

"WWE superstar CM Punk is QUITTING the organization, TMZ Sports has learned ... and sources tell us it's all because he's PISSED over the way the company wants to use him at "WrestleMania."

Sources close to the situation tell TMZ Sports ... Punk was livid when he learned officials scripted Batista to win the Royal Rumble ... because he feels Batista isn't in great wrestling shape and shouldn't be featured in the title match at the upcoming WrestleMania (the biggest event of the year).

We're told Punk feels he earned the right to be in the main event at WrestleMania -- because he's been wrestling tirelessly over the past year from house shows to overseas events. Punk was angry when he found out he'd be wrestling Triple H at WrestleMania instead of squaring off in the title match.

Sources say ... Punk -- whose contract is up in July -- made the decision to leave WWE after "Monday Night Raw" -- and we're told that right now, he's very serious about his decision and has no plans to return."
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Old 01-29-2014, 04:14 PM   #9928
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Old 01-29-2014, 04:30 PM   #9929
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who knows at this point, everyone is reporting something different of how the constant of he is gone came about, and it looks his mind was made up well before what went down at the Royal Rumble/Raw, and was probably gone in July anyway.

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Punk said he's been frustrated with WWE's direction and feels the writers aren't in touch with what fans want. He's good money-wise and hasn't really spent much money so he's not worried about receiving a paycheck.

Punk said he's interested in UFC if his body can handle it but right now he doesn't think his body is in any shape for it. He said he's been really sick, especially September through November of last year. He's had weekly MRI's and blood work done but doctors can't figure out what's wrong. He started eating meat again and is starting to feel better but isn't close to 100%.
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Old 01-29-2014, 07:05 PM   #9930
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God, this sucks. I know he hasn't been in a great spot for the last few months (year? hasn't been the same since he jobbed to Rocky & Taker last year IMO), but his Summer of Punk run a couple years ago really got me invested again (I never stopped watching, but I didn't care very much).

I can't blame him a damn bit for being pissed off. I get why Rock got the ME the last couple years, people who aren't fans anymore might actually consider buying a PPV to watch him, either because of his stardom or nostalgia. But no one in their right goddamned mind is going to come back to wrestling to buy a PPV just because Batista came back. Especially if he's wrestling Robo-Orton 5000.

I don't see how Vince & the powers that be didn't think something like this would happen. These guys have worked 300+ days a year for years to get to this spot. Bryan/Punk (among others) have shown the ability to step up when given the opportunity (which rarely happens). Batista has spent most of the last 4 years being a shitty actor in D-grade movies and shitting on wrestling and wrestling fans. And within six days, he's given the biggest spot of the year. It's unbelievable. Punk can't be the only one pissed about this.

I was excited for the new Network. But sweet jebus this is annoying. I can at least take some solace in the fact that I didn't shell out a ton of money to travel to NOLA this year.



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