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Old 10-08-2007, 11:15 AM  
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Why do we suck in 2007? Blame our drafts and King Carl. Evidence can't be denied.

I agree with most everyone here that from the 2003 LJ/Jared Allen drafts we have been doing a good job with our drafts. But we are still suffing in 2007 because of these draft years between Tony G and LJ.

2002 - Kansas City Chiefs
Rd Sel # Player Position
1 6 Ryan Sims DT
2 43 Eddie Freeman DT
4 107 Omar Easy RB
5 143 Scott Fujita OLB
7 221 Maurice Rodriguez


2001 - Kansas City Chiefs
Rd Sel # Player Position
3 75 Eric Downing DT
3 77 Snoop Minnis WR
4 107 Monty Beisel DE
4 108 George LayneRB
5 141 Billy Baber TE
5 150 Derrick Blaylock RB
6 176 Alex Sulfsted T
7 212 Shaunard Harts DB
7 243 Terdell Sands DT

2000 - Kansas City Chiefs
Rd Sel # Player Position
1 21 Sylvester Morris WR
2 54 William Bartee CB
3 85 Greg Wesley SS
4 115 Frank Moreau RB
5 153 Dante Hall RB
5 162 Pat Dennis CB
6 188 Darnell Alford T
7 208 Desmond Kitchings WR

1999 - Kansas City Chiefs
Rd Sel # Player Position
1 14 John Tait T
2 54 Mike Cloud RB
3 75 Gary Stills LB
3 84 Larry Atkins DB
4 108 Larry Parker WR
7 220 Eric King --

1998 - Kansas City Chiefs
Rd Sel # Player Position
1 27 Victor Riley T
3 88 Rashaan Shehee RB
4 120 Greg Favors ILB
5 128 Robert Williams DB
6 181 Derrick Ransom DT
7 216 Eric Warfield DB
7 224 Ernest Blackwell
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Old 10-08-2007, 11:16 AM   #2
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I'm not going to even bother with Free Agents. JEEZZZ if King Carl has one good FA pick up I don't remember and in 17 years of picking up FA's seems I should remember one?
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Old 10-08-2007, 11:19 AM   #3
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I'm not going to even bother with Free Agents. JEEZZZ if King Carl has one good FA pick up I don't remember and in 17 years of picking up FA's seems I should remember one?
Ever heard of a guy named Priest Holmes??
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Old 10-08-2007, 11:24 AM   #4
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This was discussed on some radio show. DV had control of the first day of the draft. The scouts had control of the second day.

Whether the people on the radio knew what they where talking about or just speculating is up for debate. But it makes good sense to me
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Old 10-08-2007, 11:24 AM   #5
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Ever heard of a guy named Priest Holmes??
Whoopdy-freakin-doo. Carl's whiffs outnumber his hits by about 10 to 1. He's simply pathetic.
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Old 10-08-2007, 11:25 AM   #6
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Ever heard of a guy named Priest Holmes??
Beat me to it. But I think he might be talking about the undrafted free agents.
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Old 10-08-2007, 11:28 AM   #7
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T-Rich was an undrafted FA. He may have had a cup of coffee with Dallas
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Old 10-08-2007, 11:29 AM   #8
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Beat me to it. But I think he might be talking about the undrafted free agents.
Correct. How many of those undrafted free agents have the Pats/Indy got in the last few years? There is an obvious corelation. So, we have a handful in 17 years of trying? Thats good enough to keep your job?

Also if you rememeber right Priest was brought in to be a 3rd down back not the feature back. Tony Richardson was going to be the feature back.
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Old 10-08-2007, 11:32 AM   #9
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The team that Dick Vermeil left after 2005 had the least amount of good young talent of any team in the league.

LJ (and Dick didn't want him)
Jared Allen
Derrick Johnson

That's it. That is an amazingly empty cupboard. it's getting fixed now, but it won't happen overnight.
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Old 10-08-2007, 11:37 AM   #10
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Wasn't Willie Roaf a free agent pickup?

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Old 10-08-2007, 11:38 AM   #11
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Wasn't Willie Roaf a free agent pickup?

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Trade, 3rd rounder IIRC.
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Old 10-08-2007, 11:38 AM   #12
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The team that Dick Vermeil left after 2005 had the least amount of good young talent of any team in the league.

LJ (and Dick didn't want him)
Jared Allen
Derrick Johnson

That's it. That is an amazingly empty cupboard. it's getting fixed now, but it won't happen overnight.
You forgot about Kris Wilson.
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Old 10-08-2007, 11:40 AM   #13
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Wasn't Willie Roaf a free agent pickup?

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Nope. A conditional pick which became a 3rd rounder in 2003.
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Old 10-08-2007, 11:41 AM   #14
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Thanks for the reminder.

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Old 10-08-2007, 11:41 AM   #15
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You forgot about Kris Wilson.
Actually, I didn't. He's not a consistent, physical player. He needs replacing.
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