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Old 10-08-2007, 04:13 PM  
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Is there a Grownup on the Offensive Staff?

DV and Al Saunders had the O rolling. Those were career offense guys (at least DV became that in '99). Herm is a defense guy. Solari was an offensive line coach. That leaves Dick Curl (QBs) and Charlie Joiner (WRs).

Is there a bona fide O-guru on this staff? I remember things got so bad in NY that Herm hired Jimmy Raye as a "special offensive consultant" (or something of that nature).

It may be time to hire a grown up to do some quality assurance on the O. Let Solari focus on the OL which is really needy. Somebody suggested Dave Shula - who apparently worked with Brodie Croyle in Alabama. That's a long shot, I know. But when I look at the Chiefs' staff, I don't see anything like an 'expert'.

How long will Carl put up with his O ranked at the bottom of the league?
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Old 10-08-2007, 04:29 PM   #2
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I for one, don't think Carl or ownership will put up with too many more showings like yesterday.
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Old 10-08-2007, 04:30 PM   #3
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I for one, don't think Carl or ownership will put up with too many more showings like yesterday.
Me neither. Solari should hear the bus getting ready to back over him at any moment.
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Old 10-08-2007, 04:32 PM   #4
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I share your same viewpoint, KCJ.

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None of this is really surprising when you look at the current offensive braintrust in Kansas City. There’s offensive coordinator Mike Solari, who is in his second year at the position after a mediocre 2006 season. There’s quarterbacks coach Dick Curl, Shea’s replacement, whose claim to fame is leading the offensive attack of the now-defunct NFL Europe’s Barcelona Dragons for six years.

There’s no one on this staff with real credentials when it comes to planning during the week and calling an NFL offense on gameday. The Chiefs desperately need someone like current Broncos coach Mike Heimerdinger, whom Edwards hired to install a downfield passing offense during his last season in New York. They need a guru.
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Old 10-08-2007, 04:32 PM   #5
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I for one, don't think Carl or ownership will put up with too many more showings like yesterday.
And ownership in particular. Clark didn't sink hundreds of millions of dollars of his OWN MONEY into the stadium just to see it host a pathetic football team.
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Old 10-08-2007, 04:36 PM   #6
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Old 10-08-2007, 04:38 PM   #7
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Mike Heimerdinger

What a joke
'Dinger is a solid offensive coach. More skins on the wall than Curl and Solari anyway.
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Old 10-08-2007, 04:40 PM   #8
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'Dinger is a solid offensive coach. More skins on the wall than Curl and Solari anyway.
That ain't saying much. He has done wonders for the Donkeys this year.
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Old 10-08-2007, 04:43 PM   #9
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That ain't saying much. He has done wonders for the Donkeys this year.
Actually Denver's passing offense, and offense in general, has been quite good this year. They are not scoring as many points due to red zone issues, which is more of a talent issue, and Cutler's inexperience. And Javon Walker has missed two games.

I would take 'Dinger in KC in a second as OC.
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Old 10-08-2007, 04:47 PM   #10
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Id take Norv Turner after hes let go at the end of the year...
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Old 10-08-2007, 04:47 PM   #11
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And ownership in particular. Clark didn't sink hundreds of millions of dollars of his OWN MONEY into the stadium just to see it host a pathetic football team.
Not selling out this week should send a strong message.

Hell, I am even considering playing golf Sunday morning. Until this year, that thought would have never even crossed my mind.

But, Brodie Croyle starting, gives me hope.
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Old 10-08-2007, 04:52 PM   #12
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Not selling out this week should send a strong message.

Hell, I am even considering playing golf Sunday morning. Until this year, that thought would have never even crossed my mind.

But, Brodie Croyle starting, gives me hope.

I no this isnt a popular opinion around here but we need one of those monumentally bad seasons like in the 80s' just to invoke some real change around Arrowhead. If nothing else to send a message to ownership. A half empty Arrowhead is probably the only way to do it.
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Old 10-08-2007, 04:54 PM   #13
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I no this isnt a popular opinion around here but we need one of those monumentally bad seasons like in the 80s' just to invoke some real change around Arrowhead. If nothing else to send a message to ownership. A half empty Arrowhead is probably the only way to do it.
Don't worry. We'll win the next two games and Arrowhead will be sold out after the bye...then Brett Favre will eviscerate us.
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Old 10-08-2007, 04:56 PM   #14
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Old 10-08-2007, 04:57 PM   #15
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Don't worry. We'll win the next two games and Arrowhead will be sold out after the bye...then Brett Favre will eviscerate us.
Right on course for an 8-8 season!

Not bad enough for a total housecleaning. It fosters the thinking: "Hey, at least were not totally bad, just add a few more key pieces in the offseason"

Carl gets to keep his job.

wash, rinse, repeat for 18 years now...
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