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Yeah, so I saw a lot of movies this weekend.

Elizabeth: The Golden Age - Mediocre, at best. Slow and dragged on. Shorten it to 2 hours and it's golden. It's not, so it fails.

Michael Clayton - Amazing. Everything about it is awesome. However, it's VERY complex and mind bending. You have to think, so be prepared. I still feel like I'm missing key details of exactly what happened. Gotta see it again.

Across the Universe - Perfect is one word that comes to mind. It just works. And, contrary to many people I bet, the movie is best viewed sober. Trust me.
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Old 05-21-2011, 05:26 PM   #6901
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Just watched No Strings Attached the other day. Pretty good movie. Well I was entertained at least.. Could have just been Natalie Portman, though. She is low-key one of the sexiest women in Hollywood. I was literally thinking throughout the entire movie, "It honestly does not make any sense for a woman to be this damn fine!".
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Old 05-22-2011, 12:36 AM   #6902
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Waiting for Superma.n is quite possibly one of the most terrible, disingenuous, and dangerous documentaries that I've ever seen.
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Old 05-22-2011, 01:47 AM   #6903
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I just watched Indy 4 for the second time.

My god... how did this pile of shit get made? I think I already bagged on it in this thread at some point... but, really, how did it get made?

Best example of how terrible the dialogue is:

Indy is on the train, which is about to depart the station, and Mutt rides up on his bike. He yells to Indy, "Hey Professor!"... jump to the next ridiculous scene where they are in a diner. There mutt is surprised to find out that Indy is a teacher. Who the **** wrote this and missed an obvious inconsistency like that? No point in complaining about the plot, it is atrocious.

All that can really be said about this 'film' is that Lucas, and in bigger part, Spielberg really nuked the fridge on this one.

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Waiting for Superma.n is quite possibly one of the most terrible, disingenuous, and dangerous documentaries that I've ever seen.
I haven't seen it. Please expand on what you mean.
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Old 05-22-2011, 08:13 AM   #6904
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I just watched Indy 4 for the second time.

My god... how did this pile of shit get made? I think I already bagged on it in this thread at some point... but, really, how did it get made?
When you are Spielberg and Lucas, you can literally make anything you want and nobody is going to stop and tell you no. For as bad as it was, the movie still made 317 mil in the US and 469 mil worldwide. Basically they milked peoples nostalgia.
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Old 05-22-2011, 08:23 AM   #6905
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Tron Legacy was a lot of fun. I enjoyed it, and a good father/son flick always gets me. Will watch on bluray, disappointed I didn't see it in the theater.
I also watched it this weekend. The music was perfect and the action was good. The ladies were a nice touch.
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Old 05-22-2011, 10:36 AM   #6906
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I haven't seen it. Please expand on what you mean.
I could probably write 20 + pages right now on how wrong wrong wrong that film is. It posits the high-performing charter school as the model that every school needs to take. The problem with education is 100% the fault of bad teachers and school district bureaucracy for this film. Look at these charter schools that do perform! Make every school like that! For the kids!

There are numerous problems with the film, mostly from things/aspects to the problem of education in America that the film doesn't even bother to bring up. We don't see ANY footage of the high-performing public schools. We don't get the acknowledgement that the high-performing charter schools that the film loves are statistically as rare as high-performing public schools. We aren't told that the model schools in the film are funded 2/3rd by private dollars, as if having triple the funding as public schools or all-public charters doesn't make a difference. There is NO responsibility placed on the kids for their own success. There is NO responsibility placed on the parents for their kids' success or failure. The only kids we see in the film from poor neighborhoods are good students with at least one parent that really cares about their kid's education. There is NO footage of the many, many, many students whose parents don't give a single shit about their education, the students whose parents sell or do drugs out of their home, the students who have not been given a reason achieve.

It's simply the most dishonest, incomplete documentary I've ever seen. It's a strange combination of a misguided-in-this-instance free-market approach and a bunch of feel-good psuedo-Leftism.
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Old 05-22-2011, 12:36 PM   #6907
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I could probably write 20 + pages right now on how wrong wrong wrong that film is. It posits the high-performing charter school as the model that every school needs to take. The problem with education is 100% the fault of bad teachers and school district bureaucracy for this film. Look at these charter schools that do perform! Make every school like that! For the kids!

There are numerous problems with the film, mostly from things/aspects to the problem of education in America that the film doesn't even bother to bring up. We don't see ANY footage of the high-performing public schools. We don't get the acknowledgement that the high-performing charter schools that the film loves are statistically as rare as high-performing public schools. We aren't told that the model schools in the film are funded 2/3rd by private dollars, as if having triple the funding as public schools or all-public charters doesn't make a difference. There is NO responsibility placed on the kids for their own success. There is NO responsibility placed on the parents for their kids' success or failure. The only kids we see in the film from poor neighborhoods are good students with at least one parent that really cares about their kid's education. There is NO footage of the many, many, many students whose parents don't give a single shit about their education, the students whose parents sell or do drugs out of their home, the students who have not been given a reason achieve.

It's simply the most dishonest, incomplete documentary I've ever seen. It's a strange combination of a misguided-in-this-instance free-market approach and a bunch of feel-good psuedo-Leftism.
That does sound awful. Did it ever bring up how terrible NCLB is, and how that should possibly be burned in an AIDs fire?
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That does sound awful. Did it ever bring up how terrible NCLB is, and how that should possibly be burned in an AIDs fire?
It does bring it up but only to say that it hasn't resulted in positive change. It shows how far behind we are on the NCLB proficiency goals. It doesn't however explain why NCLB is a failure, or how it handicaps teachers.
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It does bring it up but only to say that it hasn't resulted in positive change. It shows how far behind we are on the NCLB proficiency goals. It doesn't however explain why NCLB is a failure, or how it handicaps teachers.
So, yeah, all around this is a terrible documentary then.
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I just watched Indy 4 for the second time.

My god... how did this pile of shit get made? I think I already bagged on it in this thread at some point... but, really, how did it get made?

Best example of how terrible the dialogue is:

Indy is on the train, which is about to depart the station, and Mutt rides up on his bike. He yells to Indy, "Hey Professor!"... jump to the next ridiculous scene where they are in a diner. There mutt is surprised to find out that Indy is a teacher. Who the **** wrote this and missed an obvious inconsistency like that? No point in complaining about the plot, it is atrocious.

All that can really be said about this 'film' is that Lucas, and in bigger part, Spielberg really nuked the fridge on this one.
Clearly he was under the impression that Indy was exclusively into research and writing and that he had grad assistants who spoke only broken English doing all of his teaching.
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Wow, the original TRON is utter garbage.
You watched the second one first, didn't you? That's like going for a ride in an F-22 Raptor first, then flying in a F-4U Corsair and saying how the Corsair sucks ass.
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We saw Pirates 4 the other night. Yeah...they should've stopped making them yesterday. Boring.
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You watched the second one first, didn't you? That's like going for a ride in an F-22 Raptor first, then flying in a F-4U Corsair and saying how the Corsair sucks ass.
The second one had a much more engaging plot and better characters. The first one was just utterly boring and provided 0 emotional investment.
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I could probably write 20 + pages right now on how wrong wrong wrong that film is. It posits the high-performing charter school as the model that every school needs to take. The problem with education is 100% the fault of bad teachers and school district bureaucracy for this film. Look at these charter schools that do perform! Make every school like that! For the kids!

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It's simply the most dishonest, incomplete documentary I've ever seen. It's a strange combination of a misguided-in-this-instance free-market approach and a bunch of feel-good psuedo-Leftism.
I never thought of this angle when i first saw this. Have u seen the lottery or freakinomics? They weren't that much better in this isssues u mention.

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