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Old 06-14-2001, 04:51 PM  
Clint in Wichita Clint in Wichita is offline
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An amazing website:

[url]http://www.carmical.net/[/url]

Well, maybe "amazing" isn't the right word...I had to hold my jaw to keep it from hitting the floor as I perused this site. No, not because of the enlightening information it contains, but because it was so ridiculous.

It really is hard to believe that there are people out there whose beliefs line up with this guy's.
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Old 06-14-2001, 05:50 PM   #2
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Touche'

I visited the site briefly and didn't experience the astoundment you did. I guess you could say my views are aligned with his. Somehow, I don't think you will be too surprised and just posted this to generate some discussion.
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Old 06-14-2001, 06:17 PM   #3
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I can understand having a view or two in common with those on the site, but to me it was waaaay over the top.

I'm sure there are just as many far-left sites with equally looney views.
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Old 06-14-2001, 06:21 PM   #4
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Yep - try bartcop.com (chadsux.com)

A DPO resident troll likes to spam that board with sick leftist pictures consisting of W and swastikas.
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Old 06-14-2001, 06:36 PM   #5
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Those are the worst sights I have ever seen.
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Old 06-14-2001, 07:25 PM   #6
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Clint,

Hard to believe you think this sight is so bad?

Just curious as to why...
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Old 06-14-2001, 07:29 PM   #7
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I read this on the home page:

[i]I am in no way implying that my thoughts are the last word on a subject. These files are merely the result of my study and come from a conservative background. [/i]

yeah, really 'over the top'. I'm waiting for Clint's version of a 'looney left wing' site where the views are over the top. Something tells me there wont be one.
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Old 06-14-2001, 09:02 PM   #8
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I haven't bothered to look. I just stumbled onto this site by chance through an e-mail attachment.

I agree that there are more extreme conservative sites like Nazis, the KKK etc., but they strike me as so unintelligent that they're more like a joke to me.
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Old 06-15-2001, 07:28 AM   #9
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"On my website, I have tried to present arguments for the unpopular side of the debates. When deciding one's position on these crucial issues, it is important to consider the arguments of the less popular position as well."

"Keep an open mind, and I believe that you will see that the conservative arguments are more logically consistent than their liberal counterparts."

Jawdropping and ridiculous? Not to me.


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Old 06-15-2001, 08:06 AM   #10
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While this site is not exactly the far left, it is the opposite of the incredibly right-wing messages on the camical site:

[url]http://members.aol.com/nogodhere/index.html[/url]

This site is about as absurd as the one Clint posted.

And I do find the religous right jaw-dropping ridiculous ... as I do the liberal left. And the argument that the conservative arguments are more consistent and logical doesn't hold any water with me. Both sides make little sense, IMO.

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Old 06-15-2001, 08:59 AM   #11
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[url]http://www.carmical.net/factsolife.html[/url]

I read his "Facts of Life" piece and dont find it ridiculous or jaw dropping. He doesnt advocate burning at the stake or handling snakes, etc. It is pretty fundamental Christianity. Religous doesnt always equal extremist. I have not studied every story on this website, but the few I have don't seem offensive. You and I may disagree with his position, we may argue that his facts are really just popular opinions, but to dismiss his views out of hand as "absurd", "ridiculous" or "jawdropping" is a pretty closeminded stance. Isn't a basic foundation of liberalism acceptance and open-mindness? Or does that only apply to those in agreement with the liberal mantra? Also, IMO, just because you disagree with both sides doesnt make you open-minded.
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Old 06-15-2001, 09:01 AM   #12
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Clint, How can you suggest that the Nazis, or the KKK are in any way “conservative”? I do consider myself conservative and do not hold any of the views or would group them with conservatives in any way. They are nothing but extremist whackos.
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Old 06-15-2001, 09:02 AM   #13
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Nazi's were all for gun control. sounds liberal to me.
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Old 06-15-2001, 09:12 AM   #14
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The confusion, Chef and Blond, comes from the fact that most people look at the political spectrum as a line, with the left being liberal and the right being conservative.

In actuality, it's a circle. The further left or right you get the closer you get to some sick ideal. I mean, look at the ultimate in conservatism or fascism - Nazi Germany. Nazi is actually short for National Socialist. Hitler was the polar opposite of Stalin, from the political point of view, but look at it realistically and you'll see that both of them were totalitarian butchers, taken pretty much from the same cloth.

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MrBlond--
[quote]Also, IMO, just because you disagree with both sides doesnt make you open-minded.[/quote]

I don't know if this was directed at me, but, if it was, I apologize for insinuating that. It is not what I meant. While I do believe that, once you've aligned yourself with one side or the other, there is the possibility that you (generic, not you in particular) have shut out the chance of seeing things without a conservatice/liberal bias, there are, of course, definite exceptions to that rule.

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Very good point. But in many cases there are clear lines of demarcation between the two. Not all, but many.

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