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Old 11-11-2007, 10:50 PM  
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Front Office misses writing on the wall...

If what Iíve read is correct, the Chiefs are $13M under the cap, even after overpaying L.J. That said, the FA acquisitions this past off-season included guards Chris Liwienski, Cooper Carlisle, Derrick Dockery, Eric Steinbach, Leander Jordan, Montrae Holland, Rich DeMulling, Sean Mahan and Toniu Fonoti. The FA offensive tackles included Cornell Green, Damion McIntosh, George Foster, Jordan Black, Langston Walker, Leonard Davis (changed position), Luke Petigout, Mike Gandy, & Tony Pashos. Many of these guys are starting with their new team. Was it unreasonable to have expected the front office at Arrowhead to figure out a better solution that McIntosh, Terry, Welborne & Turley? Carl & Herm are officially off of my Christmas gift list.
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Old 11-11-2007, 10:51 PM   #2
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They thought they could get by with Welbourn and Terry.

They greviously miscalculated that decision.
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Old 11-11-2007, 10:53 PM   #3
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Is it too late to sign Allen and have the signing bonus count against this year's cap?


One consideration with that surplus is how much of it was set aside to cover incentive bonuses that this sorry team hasn't been able to collect on?
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Old 11-11-2007, 10:54 PM   #4
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Honestly, we probably have 2 O-lineman who are among the 2-3 worst at their position in the league, 1 who is mediocre at best (McIntosh), another one who is probably only in the top third now (Waters), and a center who is probably in the bottom third (Wiegmann).

That's awful.
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Old 11-11-2007, 10:55 PM   #5
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Waters looks like a creation of Roaf now..he's had some really brutal moments also.

I don't think the Chiefs front office is very football savvy about what positions you spend on which ones you don't, which ones you don't sign guys to 2nd contracts to.

Just simple stuff like that.
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Old 11-11-2007, 10:57 PM   #6
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Is it too late to sign Allen and have the signing bonus count against this year's cap?


One consideration with that surplus is how much of it was set aside to cover incentive bonuses that this sorry team hasn't been able to collect on?
You are correct. Signing JA this year would seem to be the "cap friendly" thing to do. But it appears that won't happen, if you believe JA. He's stated that no offer has been put forth from the Chiefs. I suspect the Front Office will hose this up and pay JA the $20M+ Franchise tag.
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Old 11-11-2007, 10:59 PM   #7
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It depends on the type of RB on whether or not you resign him. A guy like LT who doesn't take big hits is a low-risk signing. LJ isn't.

The LJ signing will be an albatross. It's pretty much everything the Priest signing wasn't.
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Old 11-11-2007, 11:05 PM   #8
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It depends on the type of RB on whether or not you resign him. A guy like LT who doesn't take big hits is a low-risk signing. LJ isn't.

The LJ signing will be an albatross. It's pretty much everything the Priest signing wasn't.
Pretty much, even though any RB can be replaced if he wants a ridiculous contract.

An older QB sure, QB's are productive for a long time...but positions like RB, WR, Corner when these guys start aging it's time to move on quickly.
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Old 11-12-2007, 01:04 AM   #9
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what about trying watters at tackle
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Old 11-12-2007, 05:29 AM   #10
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Blown 1st and 2nd round draft picks on Sims, Sailvi, Freeman and 1 other I can't remember right, plus spending money on FA's to cover those mistakes cost us a chance to draft a good OL. Instead we had to draft 6th and 7trh rounders and hope for the best.
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Old 11-12-2007, 07:41 AM   #11
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Old 11-12-2007, 07:49 AM   #12
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Come on, our Vice President of Player Personnel was with the Saints when they sucked, I can't imagine how we could pick a guy better suited for those here that want the Chiefs to suck.

That being said, I believe most of us felt that Welbourne would make a pretty decent Guard. Yup, we were wrong.
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:01 AM   #13
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Come on, our Vice President of Player Personnel was with the Saints when they sucked, I can't imagine how we could pick a guy better suited for those here that want the Chiefs to suck.

That being said, I believe most of us felt that Welbourne would make a pretty decent Guard. Yup, we were wrong.
I think it's safe to say the whole line has looked worse than expected. And it wasn't expected to be that good. I do wonder if Huard's lack of mobility and slow release hasn't contributed to it though, Carr was part of the problem in Huston.
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:04 AM   #14
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:09 AM   #15
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At least we haven't thrown too much money at washed up, over the hill FAs. DV was really good at that. It'd be nice if they could stop making the mistakes of the old regime and not make their own.
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