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Old 12-03-2007, 12:04 PM  
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Success in 2008?

Herm Edwards better work his team harder in training camp and on the practice field.

Unlike to propaganda coming from Arrowhead, this year Chiefs are underachieving their talent level.

Herm's philosophy of keeping players fresh by practicing less does not work.

The reason this team does not play better is that they do not practice enough. Esp. the offensive line and the offense.

If Herm runs a harder training camp like Vermeil or Schottenheimer, he can be a winner in 2008. If he does things the same way, 2008 is his last year here.
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Old 12-03-2007, 12:08 PM   #2
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Wow....

Longer practices huh? That's the critical factor the Chiefs are neglecting?



Good grief........................
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Old 12-03-2007, 12:09 PM   #3
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People bitch about Herm; people bitch about Carl; people bitch about Solari, the scheme, whatever....

It comes down to this - If the Chiefs are going to have ANY success next year, they have GOT TO improve the offensive line. It's not about working them harder, or less harder - it's about the talent on the offensive line. Because of them, we are going to score the least amount of points in the history of this team, because the line cannot pass protect or run block.

Don't put this year on Herm (even though he has his share of mistakes this year). Put this on Carl for not bringing in the players at a vital position to help this team win.
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Old 12-03-2007, 12:24 PM   #4
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The Chiefs offense is out of sync and simplified because they do not work hard enough to get in sync. And, they do not practice enough to run more complex plays.

Under Vermeil, old veteran linemen were fit and the unit worked together. Now, the talent level is down but not as down as the results, so is the fitness level.

At every level of football, fitness and practicing hard and smart make the difference.

As paid professionals, the Chiefs should practice as long as they need to play their best.

If Herm allots a certain amount of time for practice and the clock runs out before the team demonstrates their proficiency, and he ends practice because of time and not because of results, then he is not getting the most out of the talent that he has.

As crappy as the last three Herm Edwards' teams have looked in their season openers, it looks like he is not working the team enough in training camp.

Also, in last year's playoff, the Chiefs were not prepared to play in a loud indoor stadium.

That loss had more to do with lack of preparation for a loud and hostile crowd than playcalling.
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Old 12-03-2007, 12:31 PM   #5
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Wow....

Longer practices huh? That's the critical factor the Chiefs are neglecting?



Good grief........................
Practicing better and smarter would do a lot more for a team than your theory about the owner coming down on the field and clapping.

Unless the Chiefs practice better, there are not going to win more.

I think if you ask people that played football, at any level, what is more important, practice or who is cheering from the sidelines, practice would be far more important.
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Old 12-03-2007, 12:32 PM   #6
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jettio...... you're making it worse...

The problem isn't the amount of practice time. You can't take a bum offensive line and keep them from being bums just because you practice longer. If you don't have the talent to compete, no amount of extra practice is going to help.
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Old 12-03-2007, 01:09 PM   #7
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Vermeil's practices were longer, yes.

They were also LAZIER.

The Chiefs practiced at a much slower pace. Under Herm they get the same amount of work done in a shorter period of time. The tempo is much quicker.

I don't think I could stand going to training camp next year if the three-hour practices return.
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Old 12-03-2007, 01:19 PM   #8
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I think there is a lot more wrong with this team then just the practices..

Oline, O playcalling, players giving up, Herm, Carl, injuries, Herm, DE/LB never containing, Herm

But there are some good spots: Bowe, Croyle got playing time then herm wanted(thanks to injuries) and TG.. Oh and we are hopefuly going to get a great draft spot..

The one thing Herm does well for the team is drafts.. other then that??
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Old 12-03-2007, 01:41 PM   #9
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The Talent here needs to get better. If you think we are underacheiving, then you are just fooling yourself. This team just doesnt have alot of talent, that is why most of the so called experts didnt expect alot of us, because we just dont have the players here to get the job done
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Old 12-03-2007, 01:43 PM   #10
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Old 12-03-2007, 01:48 PM   #11
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Unlike to propaganda coming from Arrowhead, this year Chiefs are underachieving their talent level.
WTH???????



Have you watched our offensive line? Explain to me where the talent is on that line?
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Old 12-03-2007, 03:24 PM   #12
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WTH???????



Have you watched our offensive line? Explain to me where the talent is on that line?
So if the team is playing to its talent level, why is anyone complaining about coaching?
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Old 12-03-2007, 03:29 PM   #13
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Wow.....

Somehow, practice is to blame?

It sure wasn't a problem LAST YEAR, with the same practice schedule.

Jesus Christ, the excuses people will make when they have an axe to grind are ri-god-damn-diculous.

Maybe, just maybe, the lack of talent and a rash of injuries has a little bit to do with having a 4-8 record.
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Old 12-03-2007, 03:36 PM   #14
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Maybe, just maybe, the lack of talent and a rash of injuries has a little bit to do with having a 4-8 record.

don't forget dumbshit gameday coaching
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Old 12-03-2007, 03:39 PM   #15
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Underachieving their talent level?

Unless you mean they're a 5-win team that's played down to 4 wins, I'd say that's a bit of a stretch.
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