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Old 12-17-2007, 10:14 AM  
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Explain to me why we need to give Herm more time

After seeing my worst fears come true in Herm with the Jetsification of the Chiefs (a top 5 draft pick) and the destruction of a team. I wonder in this microwave world of instant gratification how is it we cling to the notion 2 years doesn't set a trend especially giving his previous body of work. So I thought well surely 2 years must be handed out like candy in the past to any head coach and then it occurred to me to check the Chiefs history to confirm this.

Chiefs Head Coaches with shortest tenures:

Tom Bettis - 1977
Frank Gansz - 1987-1988
Gunther Cunningham - 1999-2000
Paul Wiggin - 1975-1977
John Mackovic - 1983-1986

Thats half of the Chiefs Head Coaches in the history of this team. 3 of them are 2 years or less. So in the present world why not cut ties with Herm. Actually excluding Herm 33% of Chiefs coaches have had a tenure of 2 years or less. And yes I know Bettis is a bad choice. Still 2 years of Herm like performance has cost coaches their jobs in the past.

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Old 12-17-2007, 10:16 AM   #2
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I don't think he deserves more time, but only because I've seen enough failures of his own sans the team he inherited to know that he's not an NFL Head Coach.
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Old 12-17-2007, 10:16 AM   #3
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Explain to me why we need to give Herm more time

Easy, we need to give Herm more time so we can have high draft picks two years in a row.
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Old 12-17-2007, 10:17 AM   #4
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we don't

but unless Clark is ready to wipe the slate clean, fire everyone (GM, HC, OC,DC) it doesn't matter...
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Old 12-17-2007, 10:18 AM   #5
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He's just frankly the wrong guy, his idea of wanting to draft, get young and build the team is right in theory but his idea of how to do it and how to play is wrong.
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Old 12-17-2007, 10:21 AM   #6
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Give us a realistic alternative to Herm
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Old 12-17-2007, 10:23 AM   #7
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He's just frankly the wrong guy, his idea of wanting to draft, get young and build the team is right in theory but his idea of how to do it and how to play is wrong.

Spot on Mr. Mecca.

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Old 12-17-2007, 10:24 AM   #8
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Give us a realistic alternative to Herm
Bill Cowher. He's Herm with a plan and a set of balls.

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Old 12-17-2007, 10:25 AM   #9
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Old 12-17-2007, 10:26 AM   #10
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Bill Cowher. He's Herm with a plan and a set of balls.

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Why would he come here? San Diego is his if he wants it or for that matter several teams would drop their dead weight if he was interested
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Old 12-17-2007, 10:26 AM   #11
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Cowher is basically a pipe dream.....

I'd wanna talk to whoever is Pioli's right hand man in NE is and see if we could hire him. That person has been in a successful organization and sees how things are done properly. Then go from there.
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Old 12-17-2007, 10:26 AM   #12
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Bill Cowher. He's Herm with a plan and a set of balls.

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I like that alternative.

But Cowher won't be back coaching next season. I also think if you know a rebuild or retooling or whatever is necessary you give your HC three years.

Herm/Carl get their three years and if/when it doesn't work Cowher's ready to come back with a ton of say in player/personel and city more than happy to have him. Timing.
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Old 12-17-2007, 10:29 AM   #13
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I would only keep him one more year IF Cowher could be had.

Gunther was .500 and was fired over the internet after 2 years. I don't think Herm deserves more than what Gunther was offered.
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Old 12-17-2007, 10:31 AM   #14
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I would only keep him one more year IF Cowher could be had.

Gunther was .500 and was fired over the internet after 2 years. I don't think Herm deserves more than what Gunther was offered.
Gun wasn't rebuilding anything. He essentially kept the same team that Marty threw together the prior couple of years and had two horrible drafts.
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Old 12-17-2007, 10:32 AM   #15
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Easy, we need to give Herm more time so we can have high draft picks two years in a row.
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