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Old 12-19-2007, 05:23 AM  
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GRETZ: All About Perspective

GRETZ: All About Perspective
Dec 19, 2007, 6:05:03 AM by Bob Gretz - FAQ

Perspective is a funny thing.

Take last Sunday at Arrowhead Stadium. Many folks in the media showed up for the game against the Titans and looked at the number of fans inside Arrowhead and declared it a miserable afternoon of fans staying away from the disappointing Chiefs.

Of course, most of them made these declarations from the warmth of the press box. They didnít spend four hours outside in the elements.

And it was cold. Take it from me. I watched the game from the sidelines and thank goodness the wind wasnít blowing, or it would have been really miserable.

I must say I was surprised at the size of the crowd that showed up for the game. Not in how few people were there but how many made the effort to come to the stadium to watch a struggling football team.

The team is mired in a losing streak, the weather is awful, itís the holiday season and thereís plenty to be done in other areas of life. I figured there would be 25,000 to 30,000 fans there.

The Chiefs release only the number of tickets sold for each game, and that was just more than 74,000. There were not 74,000 fans in the building. After 27 seasons of watching games at Arrowhead, my guess is that there were between 45,000 and 50,000 people in the house.

Congratulations to those fans who had the guts to show up. They were loud too, especially early in the game. They were loud near the end as well, and weíll talk about that in a few paragraphs.

Now, is that turnout something to be proud of because it wasnít as bad as expected? No, itís sad. Iím going to bet about 25,000 people paid for tickets and choose not to attend the game. That is not a good situation and believe me, none of this escaped the attention of the people who own and run the Chiefs.

But some in my business called this a disaster. Frankly, they have no idea what they are talking about because they have no perspective.

You want a disaster, how about December 18, 1983, when 11,377 fans showed up for the season finale against Denver. This was at a time when the Chiefs released in-house attendance, rather than tickets sold. It was also a time when the Chiefs liked to manipulate those numbers a bit, so thereís a chance even fewer fans were actually in the house.

Hereís another disaster: January 1, 1983, the final game of the 1982 season when 11,902 showed up to watch the Chiefs and New York Jets.

At the final home game of the 1985 season, only 18,178 showed for the Chiefs and Chargers.

There was the final home game of the 1987 season when only 20,370 fans were in Arrowhead to see the Chiefs play the Seahawks.

Those were disasters. That was ugly. That was apathy.

Which brings us to the fans who showed up to boo their home team, to scream in anger, to hold banners and signs with negative commentary directed at the players, coaches, head coach and general manager.

My perspective? I think thatís a good sign. Itís an indication that there is still a passion for Chiefs football. Fans are upset and they want to vent. That means they still care.

It hasnít always been that way. Back in those ugly days of the 1980s, there was no passion. The fans didnít care anymore. Every year it was S.O.C.=Same Old Chiefs. There was no hope for the future.

The 2007 season has been a bruising, troubling and disappointing time around Arrowhead Stadium. Thereís no hiding from that fact. But there is hope for the future. We have seen the future all season in young players getting on the field and contributing. They are making mistakes, but they are also gaining valuable experience thatís going to pay off in the future.

There is a commitment to building this team into a winner again, and an overall understanding in the building that this must be done by getting younger, not by going out and signing veteran free agents by the handful. The landscape isnít going to change at Arrowhead, it already has.

My perspective? Things are bad, but theyíve been worse, much worse. Thereís a plan in place and the future holds hope.
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Old 12-19-2007, 05:28 AM   #2
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Thanks for reminding Bob Dole that things have been worse, Blob. Oh...and there's that "plan".

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Old 12-19-2007, 06:14 AM   #3
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Thanks for reminding Bob Dole that things have been worse, Blob. Oh...and there's that "plan".

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See, you just needed to have it explained to you.
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Old 12-19-2007, 06:18 AM   #4
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With any luck Gretz is on the "cut list".

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Old 12-19-2007, 06:19 AM   #5
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jesus ass eating christ yet ANOTHER article saying that "things aren't that bad" and spreading the LIE that this was a rebuilding year, so DON'T YOU WORRY YOUR PRETTY LITTLE HEADS....

our "journalists" need to be fired every bit as much as Carl...they're just as a smug and clueless...
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Old 12-19-2007, 06:28 AM   #6
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Old 12-19-2007, 06:30 AM   #7
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jesus ass eating christ yet ANOTHER article saying that "things aren't that bad" and spreading the LIE that this was a rebuilding year, so DON'T YOU WORRY YOUR PRETTY LITTLE HEADS....

our "journalists" need to be fired every bit as much as Carl...they're just as a smug and clueless...
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Old 12-19-2007, 06:30 AM   #8
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There was the final home game of the 1987 season when only 20,370 fans were in Arrowhead to see the Chiefs play the Seahawks.
I covered that game for the Columbia Missourian. The Chiefs won. IIRC Steve Largent set a receiving record.

That was the last time I was in Arrowhead. Heh, I've got something in common with Frank Gansz.
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Those teams of the past had a history of suckage - if we endure another season like this, I bet less than 20K show up for next year's final home game too.
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Old 12-19-2007, 08:01 AM   #10
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jesus ass eating christ yet ANOTHER article saying that "things aren't that bad" and spreading the LIE that this was a rebuilding year, so DON'T YOU WORRY YOUR PRETTY LITTLE HEADS....

our "journalists" need to be fired every bit as much as Carl...they're just as a smug and clueless...
Why is it a lie? It has been pretty clear from the beginning that this is a rebuilding year.
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Old 12-19-2007, 08:05 AM   #11
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Old 12-19-2007, 08:07 AM   #12
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Only Bob Gretz could write a fluff piece on the sinking of the Titanic.........lmfao
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Old 12-19-2007, 08:13 AM   #13
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Why is it a lie? It has been pretty clear from the beginning that this is a rebuilding year.
i'd like evidence of that...are there quotes from Herm and Carl saying, before the season started, that we are rebuilding? I've not seen them.

because they were both on record saying we need to "win now"....

and you don't rebuild by playingt a 34 yr old backup while your QBTF rots on the bench, or cut rookie kickers after 1 game, or bench the RB you drafted behind the Priest Holmes reality show...all decisions which were made for the present, at the expense of the future...

we only claimed we were rebuilding after injuries forced us to...and Herm is also on record saying that he hasn't played his rookies tackles much because "the games are so close"...again, that ain't rebuilding...that's benching rookies for vets to "win now"....
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i'd like evidence of that...are there quotes from Herm and Carl saying, before the season started, that we are rebuilding? I've not seen them.

because they were both on record saying we need to "win now"....

and you don't rebuild by playingt a 34 yr old backup while your QBTF rots on the bench, or cut rookie kickers after 1 game, or bench the RB you drafted behind the Priest Holmes reality show...all decisions which were made for the present, at the expense of the future...

we only claimed we were rebuilding after injuries forced us to...and Herm is also on record saying that he hasn't played his rookies tackles much because "the games are so close"...again, that ain't rebuilding...that's benching rookies for vets to "win now"....
The signing of Donnie Edwards made it perfectly clear, especially after letting KM go.
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Old 12-19-2007, 08:22 AM   #15
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i'd like evidence of that...are there quotes from Herm and Carl saying, before the season started, that we are rebuilding? I've not seen them.

because they were both on record saying we need to "win now"....

and you don't rebuild by playingt a 34 yr old backup while your QBTF rots on the bench, or cut rookie kickers after 1 game, or bench the RB you drafted behind the Priest Holmes reality show...all decisions which were made for the present, at the expense of the future...

we only claimed we were rebuilding after injuries forced us to...and Herm is also on record saying that he hasn't played his rookies tackles much because "the games are so close"...again, that ain't rebuilding...that's benching rookies for vets to "win now"....



I agree ,after the first plan crashed all the sudden we have another plan.
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