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View Poll Results: Which career should I take?
History Professor 4 16.00%
Public Defender 4 16.00%
Prosecutor 2 8.00%
Family/Contract Lawyer 2 8.00%
FBI Special Agent 11 44.00%
Political Science Professor 2 8.00%
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Old 12-26-2007, 02:33 PM  
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What career should I take?

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Old 12-26-2007, 04:59 PM   #7
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I think they could all be rewarding.

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STAY THE F*** AWAY FROM FAMILY LAW!!!

That sh*t wears on those people a lot and the lawyers start acting as petty and vindictive as their clients. It's like they say in Criminal Law you see bad people at their best. In Family law you see decent people at their worst.

General civil work (other than pure collections) is good work if you can get it. I seriously considered grad degrees in Poli Sci and History and eventually settled on philosophy and do not regret it, but I think both areas would be great. But unless you go to grad school in an elite program, most of my friends who went to KU have a hell of a time finding a job, usually wind up teaching some mindless stuff at community colleges.

Certainly I hope you're joking about basing it on the outcome of a poll which will surely result n "FBI Agent" since that's cool and there's lots of movies about it and non-attorneys often have disdain for attorneys (and the general disdain for academia based on RW news & radio).
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Old 12-26-2007, 05:20 PM   #8
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I think they could all be rewarding.

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STAY THE F*** AWAY FROM FAMILY LAW!!!

That sh*t wears on those people a lot and the lawyers start acting as petty and vindictive as their clients. It's like they say in Criminal Law you see bad people at their best. In Family law you see decent people at their worst.

General civil work (other than pure collections) is good work if you can get it. I seriously considered grad degrees in Poli Sci and History and eventually settled on philosophy and do not regret it, but I think both areas would be great. But unless you go to grad school in an elite program, most of my friends who went to KU have a hell of a time finding a job, usually wind up teaching some mindless stuff at community colleges.

Certainly I hope you're joking about basing it on the outcome of a poll which will surely result n "FBI Agent" since that's cool and there's lots of movies about it and non-attorneys often have disdain for attorneys (and the general disdain for academia based on RW news & radio).

So you are saying your fellow KU law grads are having a hard time finding work?
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Old 12-26-2007, 05:32 PM   #9
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So you are saying your fellow KU law grads are having a had time finding work?
I didn't say that in my post (I was referring to my graduate school colleagues), but I would agree that law grads are having a tough time too. (Not as tough as people with a functionally useless grad degree in philosophy ).

My class was worse than any class of the last 10-15 years at % of people with a law job within 6 months of graduation IIRC. I was part of that. The main problem is that law schools have become a money making enterprise. They accept way more people than any corresponding need in the vocation. I don't know if its still true (it probably is), but when I was in, they said that there are more people in law school right now than there are practicing lawyers.

Most people who go to law school, or at least a lot of them (50-65%) don't go there because they want to be attorneys and know what the job entails. They go there hoping it is the answer to their problems in life and will put an extra digit on their salary. There are also girls who go there to find husbands. Anyway basically supply exceeds demand by a ridiculous degree.

I'll say this. It was WAY easier getting my 2nd legal job than my first. Employers who didn't even bother to send me form rejection letters the first time around wanted two interviews and to discuss compensation. That year and a half of experience seems more important to the legal world than in other fields, but maybe that is just my personal bias.
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I didn't say that in my post (I was referring to my graduate school colleagues), but I would agree that law grads are having a tough time too. (Not as tough as people with a functionally useless grad degree in philosophy ).

My class was worse than any class of the last 10-15 years at % of people with a law job within 6 months of graduation IIRC. I was part of that. The main problem is that law schools have become a money making enterprise. They accept way more people than any corresponding need in the vocation. I don't know if its still true (it probably is), but when I was in, they said that there are more people in law school right now than there are practicing lawyers.

Most people who go to law school, or at least a lot of them (50-65%) don't go there because they want to be attorneys and know what the job entails. They go there hoping it is the answer to their problems in life and will put an extra digit on their salary. There are also girls who go there to find husbands. Anyway basically supply exceeds demand by a ridiculous degree.

I'll say this. It was WAY easier getting my 2nd legal job than my first. Employers who didn't even bother to send me form rejection letters the first time around wanted two interviews and to discuss compensation. That year and a half of experience seems more important to the legal world than in other fields, but maybe that is just my personal bias.

Interesting...I am working on my Masters in Criminology right now hopefully going to go to Law School and specialize in criminal law.... Hoping to jump from street level law enforcement to courtroom law enforcement... I'm also hoping my experience as a peace officer will help with getting a job
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I wouldn't worry about it like it's a lifetime choice. Most people change careers several times during their working lives.
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STAY THE F*** AWAY FROM FAMILY LAW!!!

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Old 12-26-2007, 05:59 PM   #13
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Thats why I think im going to double major in Business and Sociology. It offers several possibilities and enables the chance for Law School. Ive heard conflicting reports about the job market for lawyers though.
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So you are saying your fellow KU law grads are having a hard time finding work?
Look at how long it took him to find work.
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I wouldn't worry about it like it's a lifetime choice. Most people change careers several times during their working lives.
Yeah, but if you pick up several tens of thousands of $ in law school debt, you may want to stick with it for a while.
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