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Old 02-22-2008, 06:42 PM  
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2 years -- 570 Bills, 15 Laws, 50 Amendments, 16 Adopted

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/20...783/290/461422
I found the BEEF - Obama's Senate Record
by Helenann
Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 02:19:52 PM PST

It has really been bothering me - the charges that Obama is all talk and no action. Those of us who support him and have reviewed his record know there is no basis to this charge, but just to make sure, I went to the Congressional Record (www.thomas.gov) and did a search for bills sponsored or co-sponsored by Senator Obama in his three short years in the US Senate. I searched the 109th and 110th Congresses which cover the years 2005-2007.

In a nut shell I found:
Senator Obama has sponsored or co-sponsored 570 bills in the 109th and 110th Congress.

Senator Obama has sponsored or co-sponsored 15 bills that have become LAW since he joined the Senate in 2005.

Senator Obama has also introduced amendments to 50 bills, of which 16 were adopted by the Senate.
His record is in fact quite impressive for a junior Senator from Illinois.

Below I summarize Senator Obama's legislative record in the US Senate.

First I list the bills he sponsored that have become law.

Next I summarize the bills that he has sponsored or cosponsored since he became a US Senator in 2005.

I have only included major pieces of legislation and have not summarized continuing resolutions or naming post offices, for example.

His record suggests several priorities and the bills he supports address many of our most pressing problems.
Most of his legislative effort has been in the area of Energy Efficiency and Climate Change (25 bills), health care (21 bills) and public health (20 bills), consumer protection/labor (14 bills), the needs of Veterans and the Armed Forces (13 bills), Congressional Ethics and Accountability (12 bills), Foreign Policy (10 bills) Voting and Elections (9 bills), Education (7 bills), Hurricane Katrina Relief (6), the Environment (5 bills), Homeland Security (4 bills), and discrimination (4 bills).
Of the 15 bills Senator Obama sponsored or co-sponsored in 2005-7 that became law:
Two addressed foreign policy:
Promote relief, security and democracy in the Congo (2125)
Develop democratic institutions in areas under Palestinian control (2370).

Three addressed public health:
Improve mine safety (2803)
Increased breast cancer funding (597)
Reduce preterm delivery and complications, reduce infant mortality (707).

Two addressed openness and accountability in government:
Strengthening the Freedom of Information Act (2488)
Full disclosure of all entities receiving federal funds (2590)

Two addressed national security
Extend Terrorist Risk Insurance (467)
Amend the Patriot Act (2167)

One addressed the needs of the Armed Forces
Wave passport fees to visit graves, attend memorials/funerals of veterans abroad (1184).
Of the 570 bills Senator Obama introduced into the Senate during the 109th and 110th Congress (Senate Bill numbers are in parentheses), they can be summarized as follows: (See link for full detail)
25 addressed Energy Efficiency and Climate Change
21 addressed Health Care
20 addressed Public Health:
14 address Consumer Protection/Labor
13 addressed the Needs of Veterans and the Armed Forces:
12 addressed Congressional Ethics and Accountability
10 addressed Foreign Policy:
9 address Voting/Elections
11 addressed Education
6 addressed Hurrican Katrina
5 addressed the Environment
4 addressed Discrimination
4 addressed Homeland Security
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Old 02-22-2008, 06:59 PM   #2
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Number of bills != Good thing.

You'd have hoped they could fix the problem with a few less tries.
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Old 02-22-2008, 07:18 PM   #3
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Number of bills != Good thing.

You'd have hoped they could fix the problem with a few less tries.
That's obviously not the point.
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Old 02-22-2008, 08:16 PM   #4
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I didn't look at all his bills, but the few that he co-sponsored and the 1 that he sponsored that became law all were "passed in the Senate by Unanimous Consent." I have no idea how many bills are unanimously passed in the senate, but its hard for me to believe that they are substantial pieces of legislation. The one he sponsored (Congo relief) didn't even get a roll call vote in the house.
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Old 02-22-2008, 08:21 PM   #5
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It looks like he's used a double barrel shotgun and an uzi in drive-bys to make taxes higher.

Climate legislation doesn't do much but make things more expensive.
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Old 02-22-2008, 10:44 PM   #6
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That's obviously not the point.
What is the point then? The article just gives quantities, doesn't mention, with any detail, what any of the laws were supposed to have done and what they really did. And the idea that all these laws in the space of two years is a good thing without any other info is disturbing. Bad laws are quite often worse than no laws.
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Old 02-23-2008, 12:48 AM   #7
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When people have shown particular pieces of legislation before, the answer has been: "SO?!?! HE'S JUST A STARRY-EYED IDEALIST WHO DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE'S DOING!"

When the total is taken into account, showing just how much work he's been doing, the answer has been: "SO?!?! HE'S JUST A STARRY-EYED IDEALIST WHO DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE'S DOING!"

It certainly couldn't be that you people have swallowed the talking points and refuse to acknowledge reality, could it?
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Old 02-23-2008, 02:14 AM   #8
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When people have shown particular pieces of legislation before, the answer has been: "SO?!?! HE'S JUST A STARRY-EYED IDEALIST WHO DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE'S DOING!"

When the total is taken into account, showing just how much work he's been doing, the answer has been: "SO?!?! HE'S JUST A STARRY-EYED IDEALIST WHO DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE'S DOING!"

It certainly couldn't be that you people have swallowed the talking points and refuse to acknowledge reality, could it?
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Statistics: Barack Obama has sponsored 129 bills since Jan 4, 2005, of which 120 haven't made it out of committee (Poor) and 1 were successfully enacted (Average, relative to peers). Obama has co-sponsored 545 bills during the same time period (Average, relative to peers).
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Old 02-23-2008, 02:53 AM   #9
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Promote relief, security and democracy in the Congo (2125)
sponsored with 12 co-sponsors
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Develop democratic institutions in areas under Palestinian control (2370).
1 of 90 co-sponsors (meaning that 91% of the Senate got in on this)
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Improve mine safety (2803)
1 of 11 co-sponsors
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Increased breast cancer funding (597)
1 of 62 co-sponsors
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Reduce preterm delivery and complications, reduce infant mortality (707).
1 of 42 co-sponsors
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Strengthening the Freedom of Information Act (2488)
1 of 17 co-sponsors
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Full disclosure of all entities receiving federal funds (2590)
1 of 47 co-sponsors
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Extend Terrorist Risk Insurance (467)
1 of 33 co-sponsors
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Amend the Patriot Act (2167)
1 of 31 co-sponsors
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Wave passport fees to visit graves, attend memorials/funerals of veterans abroad (1184).
1 of 2 co-sponsors

Sponsored or co-sponsored by Hillary also:

2125, 2167, 2370, 597, 707, 2590, 467, 2167 (8 of the 10 listed here)
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Old 02-23-2008, 05:04 AM   #10
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I don't get all of this crap. He isn't some clueless baby like some claim him to be, nor is he some innocent lamb, clean of the dirty bile that is Washington D.C., like others claim. He is a politician, just like everybody else who ran in the primary
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Old 02-23-2008, 05:22 AM   #11
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Holy data-twisting, Batman!

Obama, having spent 2/3 of his time in a Republican congress, is the most active Congressman of the 2005 class (and note, this is only the stuff bearing his name at the top, which means stuff like his work with Lugar and with Coburn that you're trying to pretend he didn't play a big role in aren't included). But hey, an incredibly simplistic, automatically generated analysis will surely show that his record can't compare to McCain's, right?

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/person.xpd?id=300071
John McCain has sponsored 403 bills since Jan 21, 1997, of which 263 haven't made it out of committee (Extremely Poor) and 12 were successfully enacted (Very Good, relative to peers). McCain has co-sponsored 873 bills during the same time period (Average, relative to peers).

So you're saying that McCain's managed to squeeze 11 more bills bearing his name out than Obama with a Republican-slanted congress and an 8-year head start? Huh.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/person.xpd?id=300022
Hillary Clinton has sponsored 354 bills since Jan 22, 2001, of which 307 haven't made it out of committee (Extremely Poor) and 2 were successfully enacted (Average, relative to peers). Clinton has co-sponsored 1723 bills during the same time period (Average, relative to peers).
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More funding to the Congo was at the top of my list.
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Holy data-twisting, Batman!
I twisted nothing. I didn't even comment on it in the post. It is what it is, you can draw your own conclusions.

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Obama, having spent 2/3 of his time in a Republican congress, is the most active Congressman of the 2005 class (and note, this is only the stuff bearing his name at the top, which means stuff like his work with Lugar and with Coburn that you're trying to pretend he didn't play a big role in aren't included). But hey, an incredibly simplistic, automatically generated analysis will surely show that his record can't compare to McCain's, right?
Who's comparing him to McCain? That wasn't mentioned in Jaz's post or either one of my follow ups. I compared him, kinda, to Hillary by pointing out that she co-sponsored almost all of the bills he did. I think your confused.

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John McCain has sponsored 403 bills since Jan 21, 1997, of which 263 haven't made it out of committee (Extremely Poor) and 12 were successfully enacted (Very Good, relative to peers). McCain has co-sponsored 873 bills during the same time period (Average, relative to peers).

So you're saying that McCain's managed to squeeze 11 more bills bearing his name out than Obama with a Republican-slanted congress and an 8-year head start? Huh.
I'm not saying anything about McCain. Sigh... I think you have me confused with someone who likes McCain. To paraphrase your own post, Holy knee-jerking, Batman!

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Hillary Clinton has sponsored 354 bills since Jan 22, 2001, of which 307 haven't made it out of committee (Extremely Poor) and 2 were successfully enacted (Average, relative to peers). Clinton has co-sponsored 1723 bills during the same time period (Average, relative to peers).
That really doesn't have anything to do with Obama either. Jaz posted this list of bills Obama did and all I posted in response was a comparison to his peers which, for the most part, puts Obama in the average, very similar to Hillary. It also showed that of the bills mentioned 3 had been sponsored by near 50% or more of Senators and an additional 2, near 30%. What you do with that is your own business. It would seem to me to say he's no dynamo but not slacking off either. It also makes Hillary look far less attractive solely on the doing in Congress too. Although this comparison is numbers only, not quality.
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That really doesn't have anything to do with Obama either. Jaz posted this list of bills Obama did and all I posted in response was a comparison to his peers which, for the most part, puts Obama in the average, very similar to Hillary. It also showed that of the bills mentioned 3 had been sponsored by near 50% or more of Senators and an additional 2, near 30%. What you do with that is your own business. It would seem to me to say he's no dynamo but not slacking off either. It also makes Hillary look far less attractive solely on the doing in Congress too. Although this comparison is numbers only, not quality.

Right. The problem seems to be that the bar is getting moved up and down, depending on who is making the argument. Initially, people were espousing Hillary's experience and efficacy over Obama's, claiming this was a major reason to vote for her over Obama. The data clearly shows that Obama is as or more effective than Hillary in Congress. Is he the most effective member of Congress? Of course not. His record, though, clearly compares favorably to Hillary's.
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Right. The problem seems to be that the bar is getting moved up and down, depending on who is making the argument. Initially, people were espousing Hillary's experience and efficacy over Obama's, claiming this was a major reason to vote for her over Obama. The data clearly shows that Obama is as or more effective than Hillary in Congress. Is he the most effective member of Congress? Of course not. His record, though, clearly compares favorably to Hillary's.
Thank you, you did a much better job than I at stating the important points out of that.
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