How Long Before Feminists Play the "Misogyny Nation" Card?

**Mr. Kotter** · 02-25-2008, 12:49 PM

With Obama beginning, apparently, ready to pull away....how long before we have an over-the-top, all-out, hysterical, screeching tizzy from the more militant factions of the feminist movement?

Rosie O'Donnell should be fun to listen too. Anyone know where Whoopi Goldberg stands on the campaign? And I might even have to record "The View." What will Barbara Streisand and Katie Couric have to say? NOW might actually have something noteworthy in the news to say, for a change....the possibilities are titillating.

Now, I know the Massachusetts NOW chapter went ballistic when Ted Kennedy endorsed Obama....and Gloria Steinem wrote a pissy piece for the NY Times when Hillary looked like she might lose in New Hampshire, and those were "shots across the bow" so-to-speak.

However, I'm beginning to see the makings (grumpy female colleagues, bummed-out college-aged nieces, and our own Duhnise....) of what I suspect could be a very intense, nasty, and vitriolic backlash IF Obama is the official candidate. I know HRC could still pull it off (however unlikely)...however, I must admit....the upcoming national feminist hissy-fit has the potential to be highly entertaining.

Predictions, anyone? Thoughts or comments?

**Mr. Kotter** · 02-25-2008, 12:54 PM

I suspect this will become a popular bumper sticker with some of the disenchanted....

htismaqe · 02-25-2008, 01:31 PM

It was definitely interesting to hear the diatribe on SNL's Weekend Update Saturday night...

BucEyedPea · 02-25-2008, 01:33 PM

Not me. I'm really happy if she doesn't get the nod simply because she's not likeable. And if we're really gender-blind it shouldn't matter anyhow. I don't care what race, or sex is President...so long as they have the ideas I seek and are not corrupt.

**Mr. Kotter** · 02-25-2008, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

It was definitely interesting to hear the diatribe on SNL's Weekend Update Saturday night...

Dang. With that and the Huckabee stuff...it sounds like I missed a rare, good SNL. I'll have to check YouTube.

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

Not me. I'm really happy if she doesn't get the nod simply because she's not likeable. And if we're really gender-blind it shouldn't matter anyhow. I don't care what race, or sex is President...so long as they have the ideas I seek and are not corrupt.

Well, good for you then.

I suspect there's gonna be a lot of disgruntled women though, who are gonna take it that way.

BucEyedPea · 02-25-2008, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

Dang. With that and the Huckabee stuff...it sounds like I missed a rare, good SNL. I'll have to check YouTube.

Well, good for you then.

I suspect there's gonna be a lot of disgruntled women though, who are gonna take it that way.

I wouldn't worry about it too much. Afterall, Concerned Women for America has a much larger membership than NOW.

Adept Havelock · 02-25-2008, 01:50 PM

How long? IMO, about .00003 picoseconds. In other words, no longer than it will take some Obama supporters to play the race card, or some Huckabee supporters to play the "anti-religion" card, etc.

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

I wouldn't worry about it too much. Afterall, Concerned Women for America has a much larger membership than NOW.

Damn shame both are all about sticking their nose into other peoples lives. The National Organization of Whiners, and the Concerned Sandyvags of America...A pox on both their houses. Damn busybodies.

BucEyedPea · 02-25-2008, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Adept Havelock

How long? IMO, about .00003 picoseconds. In other words, no longer than it will take many Obama supporters to play the race card, or some Huckabee supporters to play the "anti-religion" card, etc.

Damn shame both organizations are all about messing with other people's lives.

My only point here was to show which group has the larger membership. Now is mostly run by lesbians these days.
Therefore, the gnashing of teeth may be limited, but could just get more press making it seem larger than it is.

Sully · 02-25-2008, 02:21 PM

It all becomes sort of a self-fulfilling prophesy, IMO.
The question is asked, then suddenly there are those who pop up to bait the issue, saying things that may very well be construed (in this case) as misogynistic, in Obama's case as racist...
Then, when someone points out what they said, the person gets to cry that anyone defending them is playing the race or gender card.

**Mr. Kotter** · 02-25-2008, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sully

It all becomes sort of a self-fulfilling prophesy, IMO.
The question is asked, then suddenly there are those who pop up to bait the issue, saying things that may very well be construed (in this case) as misogynistic, in Obama's case as racist...
Then, when someone points out what they said, the person gets to cry that anyone defending them is playing the race or gender card.

It is predictable, yes, but IMO it's certainly no worse than whiners who use the sexism/racism card in the first place. Especially when, in this case, HRC's falling on her face....has next to nothing to do with her being a woman---but rather who she is and what she stands for.

She being rejected on merits; not because of her gender. For anyone to claim otherwise, they are purely and simply FOS, IMO.

Sully · 02-25-2008, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

It is predictable, yes, but IMO it's certainly no worse than whiners who use the sexism/racism card in the first place. Especially when, in this case, HRC's falling on her face....has next to nothing to do with her being a woman---but rather who she is and what she stands for.

She being rejected on merits; not because of her gender. For anyone to claim otherwise, they are purely and simply FOS, IMO.

I agree. I certainly don't think she's losing because she's a woman. I think she's losing because next to Obama, she looks unprepared and unprofessional.

I'm just saying that, in Obama and Clinton's cases, people try to bait it... making it self-fulfilling.

memyselfI · 02-25-2008, 02:54 PM

Anyone claiming Hillary could not win solely because she was a woman is whacked.

Hillary could not win because she is Hillary. I think the US is ready for a woman to be POTUS just not that one.

**Mr. Kotter** · 02-25-2008, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by memyselfI

Anyone claiming Hillary could not win solely because she was a woman is whacked.

Hillary could not win because she is Hillary. I think the US is ready for a woman to be POTUS just not that one.

Good to hear.

But read the statement for the MA NOW and Steinem's NY Times article....it's the tip of the iceberg, I think. Guess we'll see though. I've been wrong more than usual this election cycle.

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Originally Posted by Sully

I agree. I certainly don't think she's losing because she's a woman. I think she's losing because next to Obama, she looks unprepared and unprofessional.

I'm just saying that, in Obama and Clinton's cases, people try to bait it... making it self-fulfilling.

I'll be pleasantly surprised if I'm wrong.

**patteeu** · 02-25-2008, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sully

It all becomes sort of a self-fulfilling prophesy, IMO.
The question is asked, then suddenly there are those who pop up to bait the issue, saying things that may very well be construed (in this case) as misogynistic, in Obama's case as racist...
Then, when someone points out what they said, the person gets to cry that anyone defending them is playing the race or gender card.

No one is forced to play the race card in marginal/questionable cases. In obvious cases, no one needs to play it.

Sully · 02-25-2008, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu

No one is forced to play the race card in marginal/questionable cases. In obvious cases, no one needs to play it.

It's amazing how you twist words to the point that it often seems you haven't even read what was typed.

Well done.

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