Hillary: 'Don't get your hopes up, vote for me!'

HolmeZz · 02-25-2008, 03:18 PM

Smooth move to alienate the other candidate's supporters, who you'd need in the General Election. It's amazing how poorly run her campaign's been.

**Mr. Kotter** · 02-25-2008, 03:42 PM

That is pretty bad.....an amateurish mistake. And if she were to somehow comeback and win....with McCain as a RINO, according to some....more than a few Obama supporters could migrate to McCain with comments like that. Though it seems a moot point, for now.

...In fairness, though; she is right.

**jAZ** · 02-25-2008, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

That is pretty bad.....an amateurish mistake. And if she were to somehow comeback and win....with McCain as a RINO, according to some....more than a few Obama supporters could migrate to McCain with comments like that.

I'd stay home.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

...In fairness, though; she is right.

What's she right about?

Taco John · 02-25-2008, 04:05 PM

What kind of person finds this kind of politicking endearing? How does she expect to win Obama supporters over with this kind of message?

**jAZ** · 02-25-2008, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

What kind of person finds this kind of politicking endearing? How does she expect to win Obama supporters over with this kind of message?

She's working on OH/TX undecidedes... and she's hoping to trivialize him as empty and keep people from becoming Obama supporters, because those people are irrational and think the clouds will part and good things will fall out of the sky.

And apparently Kotter thinks that actual Obama supporters really do believe that's true.

irishjayhawk · 02-25-2008, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jAZ

She's working on OH/TX undecidedes... and she's hoping to trivialize him as empty and keep people from becoming Obama supporters, because those people are irrational and think the clouds will part and good things will fall out of the sky.

And apparently Kotter thinks that actual Obama supporters really do believe that's true.

Never underestimate people. Especially dumb people.

Imagine your concept of the average stupid person. And then think that 50% of people are stupider than that.

**Mr. Kotter** · 02-25-2008, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by irishjayhawk

Never underestimate people. Especially dumb people.

Imagine your concept of the average stupid person. And then think that 50% of people are stupider than that.

Bingo. 5% or so of the voters will fall into that category....probably pretty evenly split between the two parties though.

**jAZ** · 02-25-2008, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

Bingo. 5% or so of the voters will fall into that category....probably pretty evenly split between the two parties though.

Ahhh.... Then you meant to say, that you estimate she's 2.5% right.

**Mr. Kotter** · 02-25-2008, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jAZ

Ahhh.... Then you meant to say, that you estimate she's 2.5% right.

She's right that there are people like that, yes. It's just stupid to say it out loud if you are a candidate.

**jAZ** · 02-25-2008, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by irishjayhawk

Never underestimate people. Especially dumb people.

Imagine your concept of the average stupid person. And then think that 50% of people are stupider than that.

Ouch.

But seriously, the average obama voter is more highly educated than the average hillary voter. That's one of his political challenges, and one of the knocks on his campaign by his foes.

The suggestion that Obama voters generally believe that all that's required to fix the mess in Iraq is merely "hope"... and that hard, thoughtful work using sound judgement is not at all expected out of Obama by his supporters... is assinine.

That philosphy is more analogous to the Bush voting Christian who believes that the most important quality in a leader is that they are "prayerful" because the solution to our really big problems are indeed prayers.

That Kotter has decided to blast Obama supporters as zombies isn't suprising... just amusing, given his religous POV.

**jAZ** · 02-25-2008, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

She's right that there are people like that, yes. It's just stupid to say it out loud if you are a candidate.

You and I both know that she wasn't speaking of the mindless 2.5% that you estimate they all have.

memyselfI · 02-25-2008, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

That is pretty bad.....an amateurish mistake. And if she were to somehow comeback and win....with McCain as a RINO, according to some....more than a few Obama supporters could migrate to McCain with comments like that. Though it seems a moot point, for now.

...In fairness, though; she is right.

She knows how smart this electorate is.

HolmeZz · 02-25-2008, 04:59 PM

She's the one benefiting from the mindless populace moreso than Obama. It's why her best groups are old people, women, and the uneducated.

Taco John · 02-25-2008, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jAZ

She's working on OH/TX undecidedes... and she's hoping to trivialize him as empty and keep people from becoming Obama supporters, because those people are irrational and think the clouds will part and good things will fall out of the sky.

And apparently Kotter thinks that actual Obama supporters really do believe that's true.

Well, now I'm confused. I thought Kotter WAS an Obama supporter.

**patteeu** · 02-25-2008, 06:01 PM

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Well, now I'm confused. I thought Kotter WAS an Obama supporter.

Speaking of which, has anyone seen the movie Jumper? I did. It was pretty lame, so I can't recommend it too highly.

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