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More racist democrats 19 44.19%
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Old 03-05-2008, 08:35 AM  
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Are there more racists or sexists in the democratic party?

One way or the other, the democrats are going to nominate a first this year. They'll either nominate the first woman or the first black man for president. My question is which one do you think would cause more democrats to either sit out the election or vote for an alternative candidate (McCain, 3rd party, or write-in) for racist or sexist reasons?
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Old 03-05-2008, 08:38 AM   #2
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Old 03-05-2008, 08:41 AM   #3
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I think it's all part of patt's new schtick: irritating and annoying gadfly.
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Old 03-05-2008, 08:43 AM   #4
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I'd say sexists. The Femi-Nazi wing asserted themselves last night....and the during the past week.

Did you see Steinem's comments about McCain over the weekend?

There is also a larger than I expected Maude-Roseanne-Rosie sort of female crowd, that will vote for McCain if Obama is the nominee....to spite him.

Un-friggin' believable.
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Old 03-05-2008, 08:44 AM   #5
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I've been going back and forth about which candidate I think will be easier for McCain to beat. I think that if Hillary is the nominee, there is a certain group of democrats who will refuse to vote for her simply because she's a woman. I think that if Obama is the nominee, there is a certain group of democrats who will refuse to vote for him simply because he's black (or at least he self-identifies as black). I'm curious about which group is larger. I have my own guess, but I'd like to see what the rest of the people around here think.
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Old 03-05-2008, 08:46 AM   #6
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I've been going back and forth about which candidate I think will be easier for McCain to beat. I think that if Hillary is the nominee, there is a certain group of democrats who will refuse to vote for her simply because she's a woman. I think that if Obama is the nominee, there is a certain group of democrats who will refuse to vote for him simply because he's black (or at least he self-identifies as black). I'm curious about which group is larger. I have my own guess, but I'd like to see what the rest of the people around here think.
Then you might have made your thread starter more conducive to finding an opinion to this question. No this is the normal game of getting your darts in the thread starter statements. No thanks.
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Old 03-05-2008, 08:52 AM   #7
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Then you might have made your thread starter more conducive to finding an opinion to this question. No this is the normal game of getting your darts in the thread starter statements. No thanks.
My OP is straightforward. I think maybe there are more people in the democrat party who are prone to thinking racist and sexist thoughts than I first imagined.
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Old 03-05-2008, 09:12 AM   #9
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My OP is straightforward. I think maybe there are more people in the democrat party who are prone to thinking racist and sexist thoughts than I first imagined.
I think sexist outwardly and racist behind closed doors.

In our society, IMO, its more ok to be sexist than it is to be racist, even though we may be more racist overall. So, outwardly some DEMS might say they arent going to vote for her becasue she's a bitch, but behind closed curtains, they may choose her over the "black man".

Just my thoughts...
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Old 03-05-2008, 09:19 AM   #10
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My OP is straightforward. I think maybe there are more people in the democrat party who are prone to thinking racist and sexist thoughts than I first imagined.
You've got to be ****ing kidding me. Your question is an update of "when did you stop beating your wife".

I don't know if this a suprise to you or not, pat, but Nixon's Southern strategy didn't carve out all of the racists.
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Old 03-05-2008, 10:01 AM   #11
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Given the number of sexist-racists and racist-sexists in the Republican party, you may not have to worry about it either way; McCain will carry the Grand Ol' (white, male) Party.
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I think there are more racists than sexists in the world in general.
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Old 03-05-2008, 10:26 AM   #13
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...there is a certain group of democrats who will refuse to vote for her simply because she's a woman.
The group that refuses to vote for her includes a lot of types. Surely some are sexist men... but among are also the Feminists for Obama who just think that she on her own merits is the wrong female candidate. That's just one example of those that won't support her.

And depending on how the rest of this primary plays out, there is a way that I would not vote for her. It's rather unlikely, but it's possible. That would be if it becomes clear that Obama is the ultimate nominee, but she pulls an atomic-Huckabee where she trys to blow up Obama's campaign so badly that she hopes the enough superdelegates will vote for her to give her the nomination no matter how far behind she slides between now and the convention. Examples of that include her "I take him at his word that he's not a muslim" and "McCain and I are experienced, Obama is nothing but a speech" comments as well as staying in the race if Obama were to win the next 5 or so states (including PA).

Plus, I don't think there is a chance in the world that Clinton will get the youth vote that the party needs badly. They aren't voting against her, they are just watching VH1 and throwing back Jager instead.
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The group that refuses to vote for her includes a lot of types. Surely some are sexist men... but among are also the Feminists for Obama who just think that she on her own merits is the wrong female candidate. That's just one example of those that won't support her.

And depending on how the rest of this primary plays out, there is a way that I would not vote for her. It's rather unlikely, but it's possible. That would be if it becomes clear that Obama is the ultimate nominee, but she pulls an atomic-Huckabee where she trys to blow up Obama's campaign so badly that she hopes the enough superdelegates will vote for her to give her the nomination no matter how far behind she slides between now and the convention. Examples of that include her "I take him at his word that he's not a muslim" and "McCain and I are experienced, Obama is nothing but a speech" comments as well as staying in the race if Obama were to win the next 5 or so states (including PA).

Plus, I don't think there is a chance in the world that Clinton will get the youth vote that the party needs badly. They aren't voting against her, they are just watching VH1 and throwing back Jager instead.

A saw a percentage on CNN this morning that showed the young vote makes up 7% of voting and the older vote is 14%. She outright wins the older vote, as he does the younger. In past elections, young voter turnout has been minimal (For whatever reason), and the older voter can always be counted on. It seems to me that he needs the older alot more than she needs the younger. This fact could be a behind the scenes political speak for her case to the DNC, besides the whole Ohio--and won-all-the-true blue states-arguement.
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Old 03-05-2008, 11:04 AM   #15
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There's more sexists, but they won't be voting for Barack.


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