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Old 03-10-2008, 09:43 AM  
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Vatican announces seven new mortal sins

No word on whether they will issue a statement about how they've committed three of them as an organization.

The new sins are:
  • accumulating obscene wealth,
  • polluting the environment
  • genetic engineering
  • drug dealing
  • abortion
  • pedophilia
  • causing social injustice.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...cle3517050.ece

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Drug pushers, the obscenely rich, environmental polluters and “manipulative” genetic scientists beware – you may be in danger of losing your mortal soul unless you repent.

After 1,500 years the Vatican has brought the seven deadly sins up to date by adding seven new ones for the age of globalisation. The list, published yesterday in L’Osservatore Romano, the Vatican newspaper, came as the Pope deplored the “decreasing sense of sin” in today’s “securalised world” and the falling numbers of Roman Catholics going to confession.

The Catholic Church divides sins into venial, or less serious, sins and mortal sins, which threaten the soul with eternal damnation unless absolved before death through confession and penitence.

It holds mortal sins to be “grave violations of the Ten Commandments and the Beatitudes”, including murder, contraception, abortion, perjury, adultery and lust.

The Catechism of the Catholic Church states that “immediately after death the souls of those who die in a state of mortal sin descend into Hell”.

Although there is no definitive list of mortal sins, many believers accept the broad seven deadly sins or capital vices laid down in the 6th century by Pope Gregory the Great and popularised in the Middle Ages by Dante in The Inferno: lust, gluttony, avarice, sloth, anger, envy and pride.

Christians are exhorted instead to adhere to the seven holy virtues: chastity, abstinence, temperance, diligence, patience, kindness and humility.

Bishop Gianfranco Girotti, head of the Apostolic Penitentiary, the Vatican body which oversees confessions and plenary indulgences, said after a week-long Lenten seminar for priests that surveys showed 60 per cent of Catholics in Italy no longer went to confession.

He said that priests must take account of “new sins which have appeared on the horizon of humanity as a corollary of the unstoppable process of globalisation”. Whereas sin in the past was thought of as being an invididual matter, it now had “social resonance”.

“You offend God not only by stealing, blaspheming or coveting your neighbour’s wife, but also by ruining the environment, carrying out morally debatable scientific experiments, or allowing genetic manipulations which alter DNA or compromise embryos,” he said.

Bishop Girotti said that mortal sins also included taking or dealing in drugs, and social injustice which caused poverty or “the excessive accumulation of wealth by a few”.

He said that two mortal sins which continued to preoccupy the Vatican were abortion, which offended “the dignity and rights of women”, and paedophilia, which had even infected the clergy itself and so had exposed the “human and institutional fragility of the Church”.

The mass media had “blown up” the issue “to discredit the Church”, but the Church itself was taking steps to deal with it.

Addressing the Apostolic Penitentiary seminar, the Pope said there was “a certain disaffection” with confession among the faithful. Priests had to show “divine tenderness for penitent sinners” and admit their own failings.

“Those who trust in themselves and in their own merits are, as it were, blinded by their own ‘I’, and their hearts harden in sin. Those who recognise themselves as weak and sinful entrust themselves to God, and from Him obtain grace and forgiveness.”

The Pope also complained that an increasing number of people in the secularised West were “making do without God”.

He said that hedonism and consumerism had even invaded “the bosom of the Church itself, deeply undermining the Christian faith from within, and undermining the lifestyle and daily behaviour of believers”.

Eastern Catholics do not recognise the same distinction between mortal and venial sins as the Western or Latin Church does, nor does it believe that those people who die in a state of sin are condemned to automatic damnation.
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Old 03-10-2008, 09:50 AM   #2
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those all seem to be outworkings of greed or pride to me.
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Old 03-10-2008, 09:53 AM   #3
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this is sooo nothing new.. anticlimactic if you ask me
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Old 03-10-2008, 09:58 AM   #4
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Roman-Catholics? The same Romans that cruxified Jesus are going to tell me how to live?
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Old 03-10-2008, 09:59 AM   #5
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Roman-Catholics? The same Romans that cruxified Jesus are going to tell me how to live?

Hey now.. it was those Jews that killed Jesus we all know that
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Old 03-10-2008, 10:00 AM   #6
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those all seem to be outworkings of greed or pride to me.
undeniably.
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Old 03-10-2008, 10:00 AM   #7
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Hey now.. it was those Jews that killed Jesus we all know that
Being Jewish is already a sin.
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Old 03-10-2008, 10:00 AM   #8
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Dear Worshippers,

Please do not be obscenely rich. If you fear you are in danger of such a sin, please up your tithe and we will use your money to build obscenely extravagant churches.
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Old 03-10-2008, 10:01 AM   #9
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Hey now.. it was those Jews that killed Jesus we all know that
... and Jesus was King of the Jews, go figure.
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Old 03-10-2008, 10:03 AM   #10
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... and Jesus was King of the Jews, go figure.
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Old 03-10-2008, 10:04 AM   #11
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Being Jewish is already a sin.
Actually Pope Paul VI with the document "Nostrae Aetae" (In our Time) addressed this issue, we hold a great respect for the Jews

you can read the full document here:
http://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_c...aetate_en.html
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Old 03-10-2008, 10:05 AM   #12
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Hey now.. it was those Jews that killed Jesus we all know that
In defense of the Jews, they were doing exactly what God wanted/needed them to at the time. The story would have seemed pretty lame if Jesus showed up and everyone said "Hey, it's the Son of God. Let's party!"
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Old 03-10-2008, 10:09 AM   #13
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In defense of the Jews, they were doing exactly what God wanted/needed them to at the time. The story would have seemed pretty lame if Jesus showed up and everyone said "Hey, it's the Son of God. Let's party!"

your right... and the church agrees

heres a snippit from Nostrae Aetate -

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The Church, the Bride of Christ, acknowledges with a heart full of gratitude that, according to God's mysterious saving design, the beginnings of her faith and election go as far back as to the Israel of the Patriarchs and Prophets. Thus she acknowledges that all Christian believers, children of Abraham by faith (see Gal 3:7), are included in his call. Similarly, her salvation is prefigured in the deliverance of the Chosen People out of Egypt, as in a sacramental sign (Liturgy of the Easter Vigil). And the Church, a new creation in Christ (see Eph 2:15), can never forget that she is the spiritual continuation of the people with whom, in His mercy and gracious condescension, God made the Old Covenant.
The Church, in fact, believes that Christ, who "is our peace," embraces Jews and Gentiles with one and the same love and that He made the two one (see Eph 2:14). She rejoices that the union of these two "in one body" (Eph 2:16) proclaims the whole world's reconciliation in Christ. Even though the greater part of the Jewish people has remained separated from Christ, it would be an injustice to call this people accursed, since they are greatly beloved for the sake the of the Fathers and the promises made to them (see Rom 11:28). The Church loves this people. From them sprang Christ the Lord, who reigns in glory in heaven; from them sprang the Virgin Mary, mother of all Christians; from them came the Apostles, the pillars and bulwark of the Church (1 Tim 3:15).
Furthermore, the Church believes in the union of the Jewish people with herself as an integral part of Christian hope. With unshaken faith and deep longing the Church awaits union with this people. At the time of Christ's coming, "a remnant chosen by grace" (Rom 11:5), the very first fruits of the Church, accepted the Eternal Word. The Church believes, however, with the Apostle that at the appointed time, the fullness of the children of Abraham according to the flesh will embrace him who is salvation (see Rom 11:12, 26). Their acceptance will be life from the dead (see Rom 11:15).
As the Church, like a mother, condemns most severely injustices committed against innocent people everywhere, so she raises her voice in loud protest against all wrongs done to Jews, whether in the past or in our time. Whoever despises or persecutes this people does injury to the Catholic Church.

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Old 03-10-2008, 10:20 AM   #14
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Old 03-10-2008, 10:23 AM   #15
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