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Old 03-14-2008, 03:01 PM  
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On My Faith and My Church

Posted March 14, 2008 | 04:28 PM (EST)


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/barack...h_b_91623.html

The pastor of my church, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, who recently preached his last sermon and is in the process of retiring, has touched off a firestorm over the last few days. He's drawn attention as the result of some inflammatory and appalling remarks he made about our country, our politics, and my political opponents.
Let me say at the outset that I vehemently disagree and strongly condemn the statements that have been the subject of this controversy. I categorically denounce any statement that disparages our great country or serves to divide us from our allies. I also believe that words that degrade individuals have no place in our public dialogue, whether it's on the campaign stump or in the pulpit. In sum, I reject outright the statements by Rev. Wright that are at issue.

Because these particular statements by Rev. Wright are so contrary to my own life and beliefs, a number of people have legitimately raised questions about the nature of my relationship with Rev. Wright and my membership in the church. Let me therefore provide some context.
As I have written about in my books, I first joined Trinity United Church of Christ nearly twenty years ago. I knew Rev. Wright as someone who served this nation with honor as a United States Marine, as a respected biblical scholar, and as someone who taught or lectured at seminaries across the country, from Union Theological Seminary to the University of Chicago. He also led a diverse congregation that was and still is a pillar of the South Side and the entire city of Chicago. It's a congregation that does not merely preach social justice but acts it out each day, through ministries ranging from housing the homeless to reaching out to those with HIV/AIDS.
Most importantly, Rev. Wright preached the gospel of Jesus, a gospel on which I base my life. In other words, he has never been my political advisor; he's been my pastor. And the sermons I heard him preach always related to our obligation to love God and one another, to work on behalf of the poor, and to seek justice at every turn.
The statements that Rev. Wright made that are the cause of this controversy were not statements I personally heard him preach while I sat in the pews of Trinity or heard him utter in private conversation. When these statements first came to my attention, it was at the beginning of my presidential campaign. I made it clear at the time that I strongly condemned his comments. But because Rev. Wright was on the verge of retirement, and because of my strong links to the Trinity faith community, where I married my wife and where my daughters were baptized, I did not think it appropriate to leave the church.
Let me repeat what I've said earlier. All of the statements that have been the subject of controversy are ones that I vehemently condemn. They in no way reflect my attitudes and directly contradict my profound love for this country.
With Rev. Wright's retirement and the ascension of my new pastor, Rev. Otis Moss, III, Michelle and I look forward to continuing a relationship with a church that has done so much good. And while Rev. Wright's statements have pained and angered me, I believe that Americans will judge me not on the basis of what someone else said, but on the basis of who I am and what I believe in; on my values, judgment and experience to be President of the United States.
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Old 03-14-2008, 03:05 PM   #2
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I have a difficult time believing he missed all of these sermons and yet he was a regular church goer?

It sure is convenient for him that he somehow knew the exact weeks to avoid going to church.
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Old 03-14-2008, 03:06 PM   #3
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Also apparently he is going to be on Hannity's show tonight.


On My Faith and My Church

Posted March 14, 2008 | 04:28 PM (EST)


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/barack...h_b_91623.html

The pastor of my church, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, who recently preached his last sermon and is in the process of retiring, has touched off a firestorm over the last few days. He's drawn attention as the result of some inflammatory and appalling remarks he made about our country, our politics, and my political opponents.
Let me say at the outset that I vehemently disagree and strongly condemn the statements that have been the subject of this controversy. I categorically denounce any statement that disparages our great country or serves to divide us from our allies. I also believe that words that degrade individuals have no place in our public dialogue, whether it's on the campaign stump or in the pulpit. In sum, I reject outright the statements by Rev. Wright that are at issue.

Because these particular statements by Rev. Wright are so contrary to my own life and beliefs, a number of people have legitimately raised questions about the nature of my relationship with Rev. Wright and my membership in the church. Let me therefore provide some context.
As I have written about in my books, I first joined Trinity United Church of Christ nearly twenty years ago. I knew Rev. Wright as someone who served this nation with honor as a United States Marine, as a respected biblical scholar, and as someone who taught or lectured at seminaries across the country, from Union Theological Seminary to the University of Chicago. He also led a diverse congregation that was and still is a pillar of the South Side and the entire city of Chicago. It's a congregation that does not merely preach social justice but acts it out each day, through ministries ranging from housing the homeless to reaching out to those with HIV/AIDS.
Most importantly, Rev. Wright preached the gospel of Jesus, a gospel on which I base my life. In other words, he has never been my political advisor; he's been my pastor. And the sermons I heard him preach always related to our obligation to love God and one another, to work on behalf of the poor, and to seek justice at every turn.
The statements that Rev. Wright made that are the cause of this controversy were not statements I personally heard him preach while I sat in the pews of Trinity or heard him utter in private conversation. When these statements first came to my attention, it was at the beginning of my presidential campaign. I made it clear at the time that I strongly condemned his comments. But because Rev. Wright was on the verge of retirement, and because of my strong links to the Trinity faith community, where I married my wife and where my daughters were baptized, I did not think it appropriate to leave the church.
Let me repeat what I've said earlier. All of the statements that have been the subject of controversy are ones that I vehemently condemn. They in no way reflect my attitudes and directly contradict my profound love for this country.
With Rev. Wright's retirement and the ascension of my new pastor, Rev. Otis Moss, III, Michelle and I look forward to continuing a relationship with a church that has done so much good. And while Rev. Wright's statements have pained and angered me, I believe that Americans will judge me not on the basis of what someone else said, but on the basis of who I am and what I believe in; on my values, judgment and experience to be President of the United States.

Translation; "I needed the black vote in Chicago, so I joined the radical black church"
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Old 03-14-2008, 03:07 PM   #4
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Wow. He knows exactly the right response to make. Man, he's good.
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I have a difficult time believing he missed all of these sermons and yet he was a regular church goer?

It sure is convenient for him that he somehow knew the exact weeks to avoid going to church.
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Old 03-14-2008, 03:09 PM   #6
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I think it was a great response and along with his appearance tonight on Hannity and Colmes this should squash this story
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Old 03-14-2008, 03:10 PM   #7
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Old 03-14-2008, 03:17 PM   #8
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I'm very glad he both denounced and rejected.
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Old 03-14-2008, 03:19 PM   #9
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I think it was a great response and along with his appearance tonight on Hannity and Colmes this should squash this story
It will be interesting. Listening to Hannity this afternoon he was pretty harsh on Obama. I don't know if he'll be that way to his face.
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OOOPs, Obama neglected to mention this little bit...


Posted: Friday, March 14, 2008 3:28 PM
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Filed Under: 2008, Obama
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archi...14/770536.aspx

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The Obama campaign says they have no plans to ask the Rev. Jeremiah Wright to step down from a campaign spiritual advisory committee. They're stressing that this committee -- the African American Religious Leadership Committee -- was a laundry list of people associated with the campaign and didn't really do anything. The group never actually met.

They say Wright has no formal role on the campaign (unlike some others on this committe who do have a formal role in faith-based outreach). They say he was included mostly out of respect to his long relationship with Obama.
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No one can possibly believe this unless believing it means more to them than understanding the truth.

For goodness sake, he's known about it for a year (wink, wink) and he somehow rationalized staying in the church and keeping Wright on one of his advisory committees.

It appears that Obama has decided to go back to his "go to" move. Slinging empty rhetoric and hoping that his glassy eyed supporters will gobble it up without thinking about the implications of the words.
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I don't know, Obama might be able to deal with this if his audience is normal people, but we have a lot of people around here that hate religion, democrats and successful black folks period.

It is pretty funny seeing how enthusiastic some of those folks can get if they smell blood in the water of the guy that they are auomatically against from the start.

That does not apply to everybody that weighed in with concern, but there sure is a crowd of usual suspects ready to posse up.
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Umm that committee never meets so what is the big deal. I have a feeling he has not been around the campaign for awhile
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I think it was a great response and along with his appearance tonight on Hannity and Colmes this should squash this story
I nearly typed that but it was only a hunch. It does say he's not much different than other politicians or any political group and he's tryin' to claim that. They all need votes. I wonder how black people will feel about this.
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