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Old 03-18-2008, 10:58 AM  
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Give me a fuggin break. I think Native Americans could really make an argument that stealing their land and slaughtering their people would qualify as the US' 'original sin.'

In any context, I am not sure how his remark is correct. Yes, it makes for religious rhetoric HIS followers will drink up but what else?
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Old 03-18-2008, 10:59 AM   #2
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Old 03-18-2008, 10:59 AM   #3
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Old 03-18-2008, 11:01 AM   #4
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Let me check the official source on this countries sins in order.

Just hold on a bit.
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Old 03-18-2008, 11:01 AM   #5
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as If slavery hadn't been going on in the rest of the world for centuries. An we build part of our economy around it.
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Old 03-18-2008, 11:02 AM   #6
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Old 03-18-2008, 11:03 AM   #7
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as If slavery hadn't been going on in the rest of the world for centuries. An we build part of our economy around it.
No shit. We didn't originate it. It has existed almost as long as humanity has. That doesn't make OUR participation in it right but it certainly does not make it an 'original sin' for this country.

If I did not like the guy before I really can't stand him now. What a pompous windbag.
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Old 03-18-2008, 11:06 AM   #8
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'The United States' didn't exist at the time of conflict with Native Americans.
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Old 03-18-2008, 11:08 AM   #9
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'The United States' didn't exist at the time of conflict with Native Americans.

Is that your final answer?

Something tells me some of the Sioux, Cheyene and others MIGHT disagree. Custer's family might be relieved though.
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Old 03-18-2008, 11:08 AM   #10
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'The United States' didn't exist at the time of conflict with Native Americans.
Oh, so that will be the quantifier.
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Old 03-18-2008, 11:10 AM   #11
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'The United States' didn't exist at the time of conflict with Native Americans.

? We had conflicts with them before and after the formation of the United States as a separate sovereign nation. I have no idea what point you're tryign to make.
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Old 03-18-2008, 11:12 AM   #12
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The real question is whether there's any point to this other than "I hate obama and I'm going to bulldog every word that comes out of his mouth regardless".

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Old 03-18-2008, 11:17 AM   #13
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No shit. We didn't originate it. It has existed almost as long as humanity has. That doesn't make OUR participation in it right but it certainly does not make it an 'original sin' for this country.

If I did not like the guy before I really can't stand him now. What a pompous windbag.
no it's not an original sin our our country. It's been a 'sin' occuring for thousands of years. What are they doing about it in ME, Africa and human rights in Islam NOTHING.

maybe 'whiteman' shouild have just stayed in europe.

maybe Asians shouldn't have come over Siberian land bridge, or others migrated from Central America,

Water under bridge. We don't owe ancestors of slaves a dime.
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Old 03-18-2008, 11:19 AM   #14
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Is that your final answer?

Something tells me some of the Sioux, Cheyene and others MIGHT disagree. Custer's family might be relieved though.
I assumed she was talking about the 1600s rather than the 1800s.
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no it's not an original sin our our country. It's been a 'sin' occuring for thousands of years. What are they doing about it in ME, Africa and human rights in Islam NOTHING.

maybe 'whiteman' shouild have just stayed in europe.

maybe Asians shouldn't have come over Siberian land bridge, or others migrated from Central America,

Water under bridge. We don't owe ancestors of slaves a dime.
I was watching a Discovery show that pointed to the idea that part of the "original" settlers of NA were from France. Not sure how well that theory holds up but...
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