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Old 03-20-2008, 11:10 PM  
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World Trade Organization grants Antigua permission to ignore US Copyright law

Antigua Says It's Going To Start Ignoring US Copyrights (For Real This Time)

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Officials in Antigua are now trying to draw a line in the sand, claiming that if the US doesn't finally agree to allow some forms of online gambling by the end of this month, it will go ahead with its threats to ignore US copyrights with the approval of the WTO. As you may recall, back in December, the WTO granted Antigua that right, after a loooooooong series of battles with the US over whether or not the US was violating free trade agreements by banning online gambling. Of course, every time the WTO sided with Antigua, the US would stall, claim the WTO sided with the US (when it clearly did not) and (my personal favorite) claim that even if it had broken trade agreements, it didn't matter any more because the US was unilaterally changing its trade agreements so that it was no longer violating them.

Of course, when Antigua won the final decision in December, allowing the country to ignore US intellectual property rights, the US government and the entertainment industry quickly warned Antigua not to follow through on those plans -- but the US government still won't shift in its position on the matter. Thus, Antigua is agitating to get this show on the road. While it first needs to get one last permission slip from the WTO, once that's in place, it can start ignoring the copyright on American movies and music. Of course, while some are suggesting that it may make sense for The Pirate Bay to move to Antigua, that's not accurate. After all, the WTO has said that Antigua can only violate $21 million worth of intellectual property, and with the way the entertainment industry counts damages, that's like half an album or so.

In fact, that seems to be exactly the angle that the entertainment industry is taking in this fight. An MPAA letter warning: "The proposed retaliation would be impossible to manage. The real and resulting economic harm would vastly exceed any amount the (WTO) might approve, even the grossly exaggerated amount ($3.4 billion) for which Antigua seeks approval, plus the economic harm would extend to other WTO members."

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Old 03-21-2008, 07:03 AM   #2
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After all, the WTO has said that Antigua can only violate $21 million worth of intellectual property, and with the way the entertainment industry counts damages, that's like half an album or so.
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Old 03-21-2008, 07:26 AM   #3
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Who's going to prosecute who?

Who cares?

How many people in America ignore US Copyright laws on a daily basis on the internet? Are they all prosecuted? Are any of them prosecuted?


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Old 03-21-2008, 07:40 AM   #4
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The WTO is an impermissible encroachment on our sovereignty. But the right and the corporations want it so it marches on.

I'm not sure at all though how someone who advocates unregulated free trade is supposed to sit and criticize this decision. Especially someone who is on record as a critic of the need for patent or copyright protections.
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What does the WTO have to do with unregulated free trade? Clearly they are a regulating body.

And I don't recall going on record against the need for patent or copyright protections. I do think that there probably needs to be reform in this area though.

Maybe you're not talking about me. Maybe you're just fixated on BEP as usual.
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Old 03-21-2008, 10:37 AM   #11
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What does the WTO have to do with unregulated free trade? Clearly they are a regulating body.

And I don't recall going on record against the need for patent or copyright protections. I do think that there probably needs to be reform in this area though.

Maybe you're not talking about me. Maybe you're just fixated on BEP as usual.
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Old 03-21-2008, 10:44 AM   #12
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What does the WTO have to do with unregulated free trade? Clearly they are a regulating body.

And I don't recall going on record against the need for patent or copyright protections. I do think that there probably needs to be reform in this area though.

Maybe you're not talking about me. Maybe you're just fixated on BEP as usual.
I was addressing BEP's post, like you say. But i would add that the WTO seeks to remove national regulations, not implement them. Maybe from the viewpoint of having our own sovereign control over our trade policy they are a regulatory body (if that's what you mean, okay), but from the viewpoint of free trade advocates and multinationals they are usually seen as deregulatory, since that is what they focus most of their efforts on is striking lown national laws that interfere with trade.
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Yup! You got it. He stalks from thread to thread too. ( talking to himself) Very disturbing for a prosecuter. Or maybe it's part of the prosecutorial complex.
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Yup! You got it. He stalks from thread to thread too. ( talking to himself) Very disturbing for a prosecuter. Or maybe it's part of the prosecutorial complex.
No. Not at all. I'm just tired of your ridiculous act passing off fringe, shoddily researched lunacy as accepted fact. I'll continue to object to it if you continue to post it. I don't really care if you have me on ignore or not, it has nothing to do with the point of my posting, no matter how insecure you are (note: BEP at this point would probably go on some rant about how we are trying to crucify her with ad hominem if she were replying).
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