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Old 03-24-2008, 06:40 PM  
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Wright Homophobic?

I'm just curious. I was listening to NPR today, and they were interviewing people in PA about the upcoming primary. Some guy said something along the lines of:
I support Hillary. The Rev. Wright thing really shook me up. I'm a gay man, and for Obama to go to a church with a preacher that attacks homosexuals just disturbs me.

This totally floored me, as the TUCC supposedly advertised as being gay friendly. I know the UCC is extremely liberal wrt their policies on homosexuality. So, has something new come out on Wright wrt him being a homophobe, or was this gay man on NPR just singularly uninformed and misguided?
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Old 03-24-2008, 06:50 PM   #2
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Old 03-24-2008, 07:18 PM   #3
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I wouldn't be surprised if Wright was anti-gay. I hope he isn't, but I wouldn't be surprised that the leader of a black church was.
Obama is against gay marriage, for religious reasons, as he said in the democratic debate on the gay channel several months back. But he is for civil unions, and the fact that he won't pursue an amendment outlawing gay marriage is enough for me.
I'm OK if my leaders have differing religious views than me. I'll speak up that I disagree, but so long as they aren't governing those beliefs, and hoisting them on their constituents, it's OK to disagree, IMO.
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Old 03-24-2008, 07:19 PM   #4
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Old 03-24-2008, 07:24 PM   #5
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Obama is against gay marriage, for religious reasons, as he said in the democratic debate on the gay channel several months back.
You have a quote? I've heard him say he's against it because he doesn't believe it's the government's job to tell religions who they can and cannot marry, but that it's incumbent upon the states to recognize the same rights for gay couples that they do for straight ones.
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Old 03-24-2008, 07:26 PM   #6
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You have a quote? I've heard him say he's against it because he doesn't believe it's the government's job to tell religions who they can and cannot marry, but that it's incumbent upon the states to recognize the same rights for gay couples that they do for straight ones.
I don't, it's coming straight from memory. It was from the debate on the gay cable channel. I'll look it up in a bit... maybe I heard it wrong. I will say that if his point was that he simply didn't want the government to force churches to marry gay couples, I completely agree. A church should be neither compelled nor forbidden from marrying any couple they see fit, IMO.
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Old 03-24-2008, 07:37 PM   #7
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I don't, it's coming straight from memory. It was from the debate on the gay cable channel. I'll look it up in a bit... maybe I heard it wrong. I will say that if his point was that he simply didn't want the government to force churches to marry gay couples, I completely agree. A church should be neither compelled nor forbidden from marrying any couple they see fit, IMO.
Just a sidenote: but with Kotter around, you might want to be careful confessing to watching debates on the gay channel.
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Old 03-24-2008, 07:39 PM   #8
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Just a sidenote: but with Kotter around, you might want to be careful confessing to watching debates on the gay channel.
Eh. If Kotter wants to **** me, he'll have to fight my wife, first.
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Old 03-24-2008, 08:01 PM   #9
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Eh. If Kotter wants to **** me, he'll have to fight my wife, first.
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Old 03-24-2008, 08:50 PM   #10
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Eh. If Kotter wants to **** me, he'll have to fight my wife, first.
Oh, he'll do it. As long as she's 14 years old.
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Old 03-24-2008, 08:50 PM   #11
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I too have heard Obama say he is not for gay marriage but does support civil unions. I personally dont think its the governments place to decide. I think from a legal standpoint civil unions offer what marriage's do but if a church wants to marry two people, who's to say they cant.
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Oh, he'll do it. As long as she's 14 years old.
Don't worry, he'll leave all the 14 year old boys for you.
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Old 03-24-2008, 09:35 PM   #13
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I wouldn't be surprised if Wright was anti-gay. I hope he isn't, but I wouldn't be surprised that the leader of a black church was.
The norm for black church is very conservative religious-wise, but all evidence seems Wright had a high tolerance/acceptance of gays/lesbians.
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