Kansas City Smoking Ban vote next Tuesday...

[wazu]

For those of you not living in the area or who haven't heard, here is some basic info:

KC's city council already passed a ban that goes into effect this month on smoking in restaurants without liquor licenses as well as Truman Sports Complex. It also says that even the bars and restaurants with liquor licenses will no longer permit smoking prior to 9:00 p.m. Smoking-allowed restaurants are actually supposed to kick out people under the age of 21 at 9:00!

Now a NEW ban is going to be on the ballot next Tuesday for voters that would potentially replace the ban passed by City Council. It is a full-time ban for all bars, restaurants, etc, but would actually repeal the ban at Truman Sports Complex! (This is because the city council's ban would be eliminated and replaced by the ballot issue.)

Here is the text of "Question 3" as it is referred to:

QUESTION 3

Shall the City of Kansas City prohibit smoking in
enclosed places of employment, enclosed public
places and on public sidewalks abutting acute
care hospitals, while allowing it in casino gaming
areas until all casinos located in the Missouri
counties of Jackson, Platte and Clay, and the
Kansas counties of Johnson and Wyandotte are
obligated by ordinance, statute or law to prohibit
smoking within the casino areas where gambling
games are allowed, as set forth in Ordinance No.
080073, for the purpose of promoting public health
by decreasing citizen’s exposure to secondhand
smoke and creating smoke free environments for
workers and citizens through regulation in the
work place and all public places?

YES
NO

Here is the best link I am aware of outlining how we arrived at this bizarre choice between different smoking bans.

http://primebuzz.kcstar.com/?q=node/9661

I am a non-smoker, but generally don't support smoking bans. In this case, though, I am inclined to support it just so that it will repeal the ban at Arrowhead and Kaufman stadiums. We don't need to give people yet another reason to not bother going to the games, and some of my friends smoke. It's outdoors anyway and already not allowed in the stands.

[Brock]

I'll bet it passes quite easily.

[jAZ]

Originally Posted by Adam

...but would actually repeal the ban at Truman Sports Complex! (This is because the city council's ban would be eliminated and replaced by the ballot issue.)...

I am inclined to support it just so that it will repeal the ban at Arrowhead and Kaufman stadiums. We don't need to give people yet another reason to not bother going to the games, and some of my friends smoke. It's outdoors anyway and already not allowed in the stands.

Where is banned at Arrowhead while also outdoors but not in the stands?

On the breezways and ramps? In line at the concession stand? That's often undercover, and somewhat indoors.

[alanm]

Why not come out with the ballot that's coming shortly along. Making the possession and sales of tobacco illegal.
What this country needs is a thriving resurgence of organized crime.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by Brock

I'll bet it passes quite easily.

Hopefully.

[alanm]

Why not come out with the ballot that's coming shortly along. Making the possession and sales of tobacco illegal.
What this country needs is a thriving resurgence of organized crime.
All Hail the Anti Smoking Nazi's
Seig Heil!!

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by alanm

Why not come out with the ballot that's coming shortly along. Making the possession and sales of tobacco illegal.
What this country needs is a thriving resurgence of organized crime.
All Hail the Anti Smoking Nazi's
Seig Heil!!

How many times did you hack up a lung cookie trying to type that, smoker?

[Brock]

Originally Posted by alanm

Why not come out with the ballot that's coming shortly along. Making the possession and sales of tobacco illegal.
What this country needs is a thriving resurgence of organized crime.
All Hail the Anti Smoking Nazi's
Seig Heil!!

You're just going to have to face the fact that your numbers are dwindling. It's over.

[eazyb81]

Do KC's bars still allow smoking? It seems like most major cities have enacted a smoking ban in practically all public places, including bars and restaurants.

[Adept Havelock]

Originally Posted by alanm

Why not come out with the ballot that's coming shortly along. Making the possession and sales of tobacco illegal.
What this country needs is a thriving resurgence of organized crime.

But just think of all the extra funding for Law Enforcement when Tobacco gets added to to the War on Drugs!

Facetiousness aside, IMO you're correct.

The next step will probably be banning smoking in private residences "for the sake of children and visitors".

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by eazyb81

Do KC's bars still allow smoking? It seems like most major cities have enacted a smoking ban in practically all public places, including bars and restaurants.

Yes, but with an aside. You can smoke in bars or restaurants, but only after 9 p.m. Yes, I know. Stupid.

[Halfcan]

Ban ALL smoking, drinking, titties, and KU fans-Time to clean up Cow town!!!

[Bowser]

And as I've said before, if cities like Chicago, New York, LA, and the entire countries of England and Ireland (ESPECIALLY those two) can enable smoking bans and procede normally, it shouldn't be a problem here, nervous nagging from bitchy smokers having nic fits notwithstanding.

[Halfcan]

Okay the Titties and drinking can stay.

[eazyb81]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Yes, but with an aside. You can smoke in bars or restaurants, but only after 9 p.m. Yes, I know. Stupid.

Odd rule.

Anyways, it's just a matter of time before smoking is outright banned in every establishment. People don't smoke as much as they used to, and the people who don't smoke are sick of being around it. Most major cities have banned it and KC will follow suit.