Home Mail MemberMap Chat (0) Wallpapers
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > The Ed & Dave Lounge > D.C.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-12-2008, 10:51 PM  
Logical Logical is offline
Screw U if U can't take a joke
 
Logical's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Casino cash: $5000
Who says that politicians cannot be prescient?

But I also know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors, that the Iraqi economy is in shambles, that the Iraqi military a fraction of its former strength, and that in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history.

"I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a U.S. occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaida.

"I am not opposed to all wars. I'm opposed to dumb wars."

October 2, 2002

Last edited by Logical; 04-12-2008 at 11:21 PM..
Posts: 31,579
Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2008, 10:55 PM   #2
Logical Logical is offline
Screw U if U can't take a joke
 
Logical's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Casino cash: $5000
This person is smarter than DEnise on the subject of Iraq.
Posts: 31,579
Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2008, 12:10 AM   #3
Logical Logical is offline
Screw U if U can't take a joke
 
Logical's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Casino cash: $5000
Come on folks this person not only got it right, they called it dead nuts. 6 full months before we invaded to boot.
Posts: 31,579
Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2008, 12:16 AM   #4
HolmeZz HolmeZz is offline
i guess its bittersweet poetry
 

Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: NeW HaVeN, CT
Casino cash: $5000
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ill-Logical View Post
This person is smarter than DEnise on the subject of Iraq.
Duhnise said Barack's opinion didn't matter because he wasn't risking anything(as opposed to everything she risked by coming out against the war). He was just dead-on about everything that unfolded.

But then again apparently so was Rumsfeld, with his 'list of horribles'.
Posts: 16,520
HolmeZz is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.HolmeZz is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.HolmeZz is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.HolmeZz is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.HolmeZz is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.HolmeZz is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.HolmeZz is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.HolmeZz is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2008, 05:55 AM   #5
Logical Logical is offline
Screw U if U can't take a joke
 
Logical's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Casino cash: $5000
Quote:
Originally Posted by HolmeZz View Post
Duhnise said Barack's opinion didn't matter because he wasn't risking anything(as opposed to everything she risked by coming out against the war). He was just dead-on about everything that unfolded.

But then again apparently so was Rumsfeld, with his 'list of horribles'.
Yes but Rumsfeld had his head squarely up Cheney's butt.
Posts: 31,579
Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2008, 07:40 AM   #6
wazu wazu is offline
...
 
wazu's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2002
Casino cash: $5386
VARSITY
Now here is somebody who called it perfectly.

Posts: 11,994
wazu Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.wazu Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.wazu Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.wazu Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.wazu Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.wazu Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.wazu Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.wazu Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.wazu Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.wazu Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.wazu Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2008, 09:29 AM   #7
memyselfI memyselfI is offline
CHANGEd your mind yet????
 
memyselfI's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Lunatics Anonymous
Casino cash: $5000
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ill-Logical View Post
But I also know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors, that the Iraqi economy is in shambles, that the Iraqi military a fraction of its former strength, and that in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history.

"I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a U.S. occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaida.

"I am not opposed to all wars. I'm opposed to dumb wars."

October 2, 2002

Seems I said all the same things (they may be in the archives) only to be labeled as traitorous and a terrorist sympathizer...by folks like yourself.

And now? Someone saying these things is qualified to be POTUS based on saying these things???

__________________
Meet the new boss same as the old boss.

BigChiefDave:"Anyone who thought we would only be in Iraq for a few years is either stoned or just stoopid."
"It is unknowable how long that conflict will last. It could last 6 days, 6 wks. I doubt 6 mths." Rummy 2/7/03
Posts: 31,944
memyselfI has disabled reputation
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2008, 09:32 AM   #8
Lex Luthor Lex Luthor is offline
Starter
 
Lex Luthor's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2008
Casino cash: $5000
Yes, Obama nailed it back in 2002.



Unfortunately, he also spent the last 20 years listening to THIS guy:



He showed a lot of wisdom when he condemned the war in Iraq long before it was fashionable to do so. But you also have to wonder if he showed the kind of leadership you expect in a President by silently condoning Jeremiah Wright's message of "God Damn America".
Posts: 207
Lex Luthor is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.Lex Luthor is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2008, 09:38 AM   #9
memyselfI memyselfI is offline
CHANGEd your mind yet????
 
memyselfI's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Lunatics Anonymous
Casino cash: $5000
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lex Luthor View Post
Yes, Obama nailed it back in 2002.



Unfortunately, he also spent the last 20 years listening to THIS guy:



He showed a lot of wisdom when he condemned the war in Iraq long before it was fashionable to do so. But you also have to wonder if he showed the kind of leadership you expect in a President by silently condoning Jeremiah Wright's message of "God Damn America".
It was not wisdom nor was it necessarily courage...

it was looking at the entire region in it's entire history and extrapolating a prediction of the future based on the results from the past. ANYONE looking past the rhetoric of the POTUS could clearly see it. But it called for the willingness to accept that the POTUS did not have the nation's best interest at heart in order to do this. Many people were not willing to go there.

Those of us who did were not courageous or necessarily wise. We are just inherently cynical and suspicious of the government and when it comes to war our cynicism and suspicion goes into overdrive.
__________________
Meet the new boss same as the old boss.

BigChiefDave:"Anyone who thought we would only be in Iraq for a few years is either stoned or just stoopid."
"It is unknowable how long that conflict will last. It could last 6 days, 6 wks. I doubt 6 mths." Rummy 2/7/03
Posts: 31,944
memyselfI has disabled reputation
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2008, 02:11 PM   #10
Logical Logical is offline
Screw U if U can't take a joke
 
Logical's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Casino cash: $5000
Quote:
Originally Posted by memyselfI View Post
Seems I said all the same things (they may be in the archives) only to be labeled as traitorous and a terrorist sympathizer...by folks like yourself.

And now? Someone saying these things is qualified to be POTUS based on saying these things???

Yes you should run, I would vote for you over Hillary but I would still vote for Obama over both of you...
Posts: 31,579
Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2008, 02:15 PM   #11
Logical Logical is offline
Screw U if U can't take a joke
 
Logical's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Casino cash: $5000
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lex Luthor View Post
Yes, Obama nailed it back in 2002.





Unfortunately, he also spent the last 20 years listening to THIS guy:





He showed a lot of wisdom when he condemned the war in Iraq long before it was fashionable to do so. But you also have to wonder if he showed the kind of leadership you expect in a President by silently condoning Jeremiah Wright's message of "God Damn America".
I am reading Audacity of Hope and it is a great, great book. In fact it is the genesis for the idea for this thread.
Posts: 31,579
Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.Logical is not part of the Right 53.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2008, 06:25 PM   #12
Rain Man Rain Man is offline
No known superpowers
 
Rain Man's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: In A World Few See
Casino cash: $7737
VARSITY
Quote:
Originally Posted by memyselfI View Post
Seems I said all the same things (they may be in the archives) only to be labeled as traitorous and a terrorist sympathizer...by folks like yourself.

And now? Someone saying these things is qualified to be POTUS based on saying these things???


I thought you were labeled as an actual terrorist and not just a sympathizer.
__________________
In the final seven games of the 2013 season, the Chiefs averaged 34.6 points per game, scored 38 points or more 4 times, and went 2-5. The NFL has ruined the sport.
Posts: 76,220
Rain Man is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rain Man is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rain Man is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rain Man is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rain Man is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rain Man is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rain Man is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rain Man is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rain Man is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rain Man is obviously part of the inner Circle.Rain Man is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:02 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.